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June 02, 2005
DEI duo will have to help themselves
At this point in the season, I don't think there's any real shame in DEI's having slipped to "second-tier" team status. If it doesn't say Roush or Hendrick somewhere on your race car, chances are that's where you live in this the 2005 Nextel Cup season.
The problem is that Dale Earnhardt Inc.'s No. 8 and No. 15 teams are barely hanging on in that second tier and could slip farther back.
Still, with NASCAR's chase points format, it's way too early for anyone to panic. Not that there isn't a growing sense of urgency at that big, shiny building up near Moorseville, N.C.
Both of the DEI cars were running in the top 10 Sunday at Lowe's Motor Speedway. That was, of course, before they both got wrecked.
But, even if unspectacular, top-10 runs would be good enough to get the Nos. 8 and 15 into the second round of Brian France's chase in the late summer and fall.
Michael Waltrip and Dale Earnhardt Jr. each have five - count 'em fans, 5 - top 10s so far this season. That's the same number claimed by three of the drivers currently in the top 10 of the standings.
Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s average finish of 16.8 is even better than the 10-place guy, Kurt Busch's. Both DEI drivers, though, are sorely lacking in bonus points.
No, it's not time do a Dave Marcis or Kevin Lepage and just stay out when everyone else pits. Five points ain't worth that much when you're buried deep in the field.
Since it's still relatively early, there's no doubt that some of the points leaders will have trouble and come back to the rest of the pack a bit. But, just as NFL treams would prefer to "control their own destiny" as the playoffs approach, the DEI duo will need to do more for themselves.
Which would seemingly include being a tad more careful when their cars occupy the same part of the track.
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Unfortunately to get those bonuses in points, the driver and team have got to be on the same level of communication... and DEI is definitely not even near that level. Until they start listening to each other nothing is going to work. Yes, they may get a top 10 here and there, but that's as far as it will go. With Roush and Hendrick kicking everyone's doors down you can wish for a top ten and be happy with the day. They need to do whatever they can to take the win.
Posted by: Kali | Jun 2, 2005 11:41:25 AM
I hate tht DEI is going through these hard times, but to be struggling like they are, both teams could still possibly make the chase, though they have some improving to do.
I just wish one day, that HMS would go through this. Just one really bad year is all I ask.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 2, 2005 12:27:09 PM
Great point, Bob. Lot's of teams move between tiers. I think it was clear that last year RCR had slumped to "third tier" status amoung the Chevy teams, but they seem to have made significant improvements for this season. DEI will be back.....like the cycle of nature. Now if we could just figure out what it's gonna take to restore Petty Ent. to "first tier" status?????
Posted by: Chris Frazier | Jun 2, 2005 1:51:09 PM
Tnx for your notes.
Chris, I'm with you on the Pettys. A time machine maybe?
Posted by: Bob Henry | Jun 2, 2005 1:57:57 PM
HMS will never go through a year like DEI is having because unlike DEI there is alot of communication between the teams. Tony Eury summed it up well by saying that there were 2 single car teams at DEI. Another part of the problem is that Dale Jr. over acheived last year and this year he is just showing his real talent.
Posted by: Bob | Jun 2, 2005 2:00:33 PM
Bob,
HMS will most likely never have a year like that, but a man can dream can't he. Imagine
Jeff Gordon , 1win, 13th in points, Jimmie Johnson 1 win, 12th in points.
But I never would have imagined RCR having the struggles they had in 2002 and 2004. It can happen to the best.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 2, 2005 2:36:16 PM
what do you get when you take a lengend, a bunch of money, a kid not ready for the presure and lots of family???
you guessed it DEI
add a worn out driver who has ran 3000 races and only won 2 or 3 times???
right again Micheal Waltrip
now what do you get when you take alot of money - over the hill drivers and a assortment of shoulda - coulda - woulda???
right again FOX
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 2, 2005 2:57:29 PM
You think DEI has problems... I think Penske will be having worse ones next season.
Posted by: M Benson | Jun 2, 2005 5:00:18 PM
Speedracer
You don't pull your punches, do you? LOL
19jay12
Yes it's a shame that NASCAR has come to the Rich Multi car teams, but that's where it is today, and as long as HMS has Jimmy and Jeff, and if the tracks stop taking out Jeff. You just AIN"T goina see that, so go ahead and dream.
Posted by: Don | Jun 2, 2005 5:36:23 PM
Bob,
DEI is far from a second tier racing organization, just because they are having some issues they aren't that bad right now. When it is all said and done the issues will be a thing of the past and the #8 and #15 will be back up near the top where they belong. It is so easy for people like you to bash them and make claims of gloom and doom when the problems are made so public.
Posted by: Jon | Jun 2, 2005 7:42:35 PM
I agree with you Jon,its easy to kick someone when they are down. They better enjoy it. Maybe if Teresa were a convicted felon with more money than Rockafeller she could buy the Coca-Cola 600. Wonder how much it cost to get a race red flagged when you need it ?
Posted by: Steve | Jun 2, 2005 8:14:46 PM
I don't know but obviously Hendrick had enough to pay it. :)
Posted by: Jon | Jun 2, 2005 8:42:40 PM
hey I just speak what is on my mind.
I do not have a dislike for anyone.
I am just fed up with Nascar and their double standards. Lets wave the red flag with 9 laps left WHY makes people wonder and gives people the will to think that yes Nascar has 2 sets of rules.
As for Jr he was kind of a rowdy kid when his dad died and then boom everything is in this kids lap. So all this power is just a bit too much for him I suspect. Hell it killed Elvis. Besides when you are it they come out of the woodwork to get ya - so in many ways what Jr has is not something anyone should wish for.
Finaly I just can't handle FOX - ESPN was way better but money honey and Nascar was gone like a cheap date out for all she can get.
Would somebody please vote DW off the Island!!!!
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 2, 2005 9:17:10 PM
Jr has a lot of maturing left to do, no doubt. I don't think he or anyone else expected that he would have to take on the role he has, both at DEI and as the media's appointed representative for Nascar to the rest of the country. In a way, DEI is still operating the way race teams did back in the day (as are Penske, the Pettys, and many others). Maybe that does mean they'll occasionally lag behind the super-teams, but I still wouldn't trade them for the world.
Posted by: Sara | Jun 2, 2005 10:10:52 PM
Sara just remember that Nascar has changed.
Those who do not change with it will get left behind.
Penske racing is a joke.
Petty racing is just over the hill since King Richard left.
DEI is going to have to change for the better or they will just fade away.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 2, 2005 11:57:57 PM
Speedracer, most of the time I disagree with what you post, but you are right about how Nascar has changed, and Penske, Petty and DEI have not.
I still like FOX better than NBC coverage.
Posted by: Marty | Jun 3, 2005 5:44:49 AM
I think the expectations that are placed on Dale Jr. is so great that he is not living up to the expectations and it maybe weighing heavy on him. junior will never reach the level of his dad and I think he doesn't really want that, he wants to be judges on his accomplishment and not as they compare to his dads. Besides he is a little ahead of his dad at this point in his career (195 races and 15 wins as compared to Sr.'s 12 after 195 races).
Posted by: Jon | Jun 3, 2005 7:48:52 AM
Don,
You are probably right, HMS isn't slowing down right now, much to my dismay.
MBenson,
I'm not sure if you're blind, ignorant or what, but Penske is doing fine. Ryan Newman's 4th, Rusty's 11th, and both have ran strong. Just because they don't communicate well doesn't mean they are in trouble. Penske has been the best all around dodge team this year. Even Travis Kvapil is showing some promise. SO quit taking cheap shots at Penske.
Speedracer,
If Penske is a joke, then where's the punchline, 4th and 11th in points? Much better than any team beside HMS and Roush. The only joke around here is your comments.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 3, 2005 11:48:03 AM
hey 19jay12
who cares where they are in the points.
look at the fighting going on in that team between the # 2 & # 12.
Do you call that a team.
Points who cares
Where will they end up at the end of the year - it won't be with a championship that's for sure. WHY - no team work and without team work that's all the higher they will go.
In a normal team there is team work and people work together but not at penski.
Look at DEI no teamwork is leading to big problems on and off the track.
So who cares if you like what I say. IT's the USA and I have every right to speak my mind 19Jay12
so FO *******god bless America***********
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 3, 2005 1:00:30 PM
OH so where you are in the points don't matter. Speedracer, obviously you aren't very knowledgable on the sport. Who cares that you speak your mind and free speech whatever, that doesn't mean you're right. It just means you are not afraid to make dumbass statements on the comment board.
Ryan Newman and Rusty Wallace will be in the chase, they don't use the same setups, who cares, the two teams are talented and have won races for the last 3 or 4 years, and they didn't work together then. Newman is still my pick to win the title.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 3, 2005 1:23:49 PM
Steve said it right, "convicted felon with more money than Rockefeller.." I'd be ashamed to be a fan of Wonderboy and Unibrow if their owner were a criminal.......wait! He is! Bob and speedracer show their ignorance every time they open their comments on here. HMS sharing info????? Give me a break! They have a billion cars and only two regularly compete for the win. Yeah, looks like Terry Labonte got all kinds of information from the other teams as well as he ran at the end of his career (that's sarcasm, in case you ignorant jackasses can't figure that out).
Posted by: Ironman | Jun 3, 2005 1:45:24 PM
Hey 19Jay12, that would be cool to see Newman win it if my favorite driver doesn't (anybody but one from The Felon), but the one nobody's watching is Elliott Sadler. He's going to sneak up on everybody. Hell, nobody notices how well he's done since he came to Yates. Look how sucky Rudd has done since swapping rides, which I find hilarious after he bashed Sadler before taking over the 21.
Posted by: Ironman | Jun 3, 2005 1:48:32 PM
I don't know how speedracer can't like DW. Hell, DW has his nose so far up Hendrick, Jeffy, and Jimmy's asses that he could give them a prostate exam. The old bastard doesn't ever talk highly about his brother; I'll bet he'd trade Mikey for Jeffy to be his brother any day. And you don't like him as an announcer????
Posted by: Ironman | Jun 3, 2005 1:51:05 PM
been watching nascar for 20 years.
seen it all - seen jeff gordan come in a piss off all the rednecks for bringing nascar to the mainstream.
seen Nascar just screw espn all for the love of money.
seen nascar change the rules so one team can win and then turn around and not do the same for another team.
seen this sport change and sometimes it has changed for the worst.
seen rusty flip so many times at daytona it took him 5 years before he would get back in the saddle.
went from dale to davy to ernie and lost every driver that I liked.
so bite me if you think I don't know racing.
all I know is that nascar changes the rules so often it's like believing all the crap that comes out of Washington.
Yes Elliot Sadler is a good driver and will do well but better watch out for Harvick.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 3, 2005 3:10:15 PM
Ironman
It's odd you see DW that way, from reading on the Gordon boards, they see it just the opposite, They complain about DW only talking about Jr, even if he’s in the garage, and always raving about Mikey, guess it depends on where you’re coming from. But DW wasn’t giving the nickname Mouth for nothing. He’s doing what he gets paid for if we like it or not.
Posted by: Don | Jun 3, 2005 5:08:27 PM
Speedracer, Penkse cars expecially #12 are championship contender. Case Closed.
DW loves to praise the #48, #24, #8, and #15. Benny Parson is less biased towards anyone except that he loves to point out that he discovered Greg Biffle
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 3, 2005 5:40:12 PM
Who cares about DW I can not stand this man.
He is so full of shit it's scary.
If I remember right his farewell tour lasted about 5 years or so.
The problem I have with Penski is the fact that # 12 has no respect for Rusty who I might say is part owner. No matter how much a cry baby Rusty is he has still earned some respect. As for HMS I can not stand punk ass Jimmy Johnson.
Here's where my heart is -- I am a Kevin Harvick fan period. He drives with passion and does not take any shit. Then I like tony - jr. - martin - dale j. and people like that. Sorry but the problem is that all these young drivers have come up into nascar and have done nothing before. You can't say that about harvick because he won the Busch series and then had to take over for a legend - hell half the fans in nascar hated him just for that fact.
Posted by: speedracerq | Jun 3, 2005 7:17:26 PM
Everybody needs to take a deep breath and quit counting DEI out. They are just having some rough spots and will come through just fine. DaleJr will win not just one Nextel Cup Championship but many. Not only do I wish that someone would vote DW off the planet but can he take Jimmie Johnson and Jeffie Boy with him? At least take Jimmie. I can't take that "eat s*** and die" grin of his much longer. And just for the record, I'm not a DaleJr teenybopper. I'm 37 years old.
Posted by: lvnjr8insc | Jun 4, 2005 3:45:07 AM
can we all agree that this shit makes it fun and make sure to watch the next episode of As the Wheel Turns brought to you by Nascar - Remember Nascar always leaves you wondering WTF.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 4, 2005 10:16:00 AM
Well said speedracer,they sure as hell had me wondering what the red flag was for other than giving unibrow a better chance to win.
Posted by: Steve | Jun 4, 2005 6:16:12 PM
It's so funny to read all these statements regarding Rck Hendrick and the Hendricks guys. I'm not even a fan but you guys are so funny. Talk about whinning and jealousy! Your cup runneth over. DEI is definately in a slump but that could change any day. It's one thing to state facts and another when you in denial! Oh! By the way I seem to remember all Hendrick cars running up front not just 2 of them. More than I can say for some of the others. Hendrick at this current time is at the top of it's game......Live With It!
Posted by: Kim | Jun 4, 2005 7:39:45 PM
Kim
live with what?? Nascar makes the rules up as it goes plain and simple.
I couldn't be happier with my driver and his standing in the chase. I just don't like punk ass JJ. Gordon is OK with me. Everyone runs up front at one time or another. But when they change the rules to give a better chance for a certain team to win then that's not right and people are going to say it. Plus it's nice to get on here and stir the shit up.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 4, 2005 10:33:54 PM
I THINK THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE CENSORED. BAD LANGUAGE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN NASCAR, SO WHY DO YA'LL THINK IT'S OKAY FOR YOU????
Posted by: MASON | Jun 4, 2005 10:35:20 PM
Mason,
What language are you referring to and who is going to censor it? The writer of the blog has the ability to delete comments if they so chose, but that isn't censorship. But saying that it shouldn't be allowed just because NASCAR doesn't want the drivers to use foul language doesn't apply to non NASCAR sanctioned entities. NASCAR doesn't have any say in what Bob or any of the other three people put in their blogs or what people add in their comment sections.
Posted by: Jon | Jun 5, 2005 5:18:55 AM
BOB please get off this blog, don't read it, don't participate in it. If you do not like what is said then you have the option not to read it. You have every right to say what you want but you have no right to demand what is said or how it is said. So go back to watching Fox news and please vote for Dick in 2008.God Help Us.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 5, 2005 10:11:07 AM
sorry BOB I was refering to MASON
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 5, 2005 10:41:28 AM
Mason and Kim
SHUT THE HELL UP PLEASE!
speedracer
i like your views for the most part harvick could be the champ this year it all depends on how they finish.....anyone can get on a 10 race run and be a champ......my god whos the defending champ........oh thats right EARS! I would lay money on elliot, biffle ,JJ god i hate to say that too and the wonderboy as much as it pains me to admit it
Jay come on man do you really think rusty can win it this year he'll be lucky to make the chase.....and NEWMAN screw that guy he's an ass that thinks he knows more then everyone.....he can go really goddamn fast when hes alone on the track but put 42 others out there and what happens.....he loses it.As for DEI i am a fan but also realize that some changes need to be made to get back to the top tier and the first one would be to get mikey out of there and martin in that seat who is dales lil boy and get them working together around there more and then get dale back to driving and not selling beer jeans and everything else they put his goddamn signature on.
Posted by: doug in cbus | Jun 5, 2005 8:04:32 PM
Jon - Funny how YOU can come on these blogs and run down drivers - especially those from HMS, but HOW DARE anyone run down DEI? DOUBLE STANDARD???? YOU can run down drivers and call them whiney babies, etc. but DON'T you DARE say ONE THING about DEI!!
GIVE US ALL A BREAK!! What a hypocrite you are!!
Posted by: truracinfan | Jun 5, 2005 10:19:35 PM
Thanks Tru, that means so much coming from a HMS ass kisser, NOT. These are fan blogs and I am a fan of Dale Earnhardt Jr. and I admittedly hate most of the drivers that drive for HMS so why would you expect me to say nice things about the whiny babies over at HMS when they continue to prove my point just about every week. Cry me a river, because I can't muster a bit of sympathy for the whiny babies at HMS.
Posted by: Jon | Jun 6, 2005 5:59:56 AM
Everyone has a rough time, DEI is human..I do think working with family has it's pluses but at times like these I think it also has ateep downside. I never believed all the media hype when SR died about how vital to DEI Teresa was, and now it is showing. I do think Jeff J. is making quite a few enemies on the track, and Jeff G. constant "excuses" for JJ is going to get him knocked into a few walls. Jarrett and the rest of the "old times" do know how to race, and how to cause a wreck.
Posted by: michelle | Jun 6, 2005 8:39:03 AM
Why am I not surprised by your response Jon. TYPICAL!!
You REALLY need to get over your bitterness towards Gordon, God forbid he beat your driver one too many times. In the same fashion, at times, as your driver did. Funny, you find nothing wrong with your driver moving people out of the way, but God forbid anyone else win a race that way!
Posted by: trufacinfan | Jun 6, 2005 8:54:38 AM
DEI needs to get back to its roots. I think it needs to refocus and have the entire organization work as a, uh I dont know, TEAM? They have the talent although I think Michael bail out at some point to save his career. Get back to the days when Jr and Michael tore up the track! Come on guys, we miss you!
Posted by: Grumpy Old Man | Jun 6, 2005 10:00:38 AM
Doug in cbus,
The Newman can only go fast in qualifying is getting old. He is 4th in pts and is running better than anyone else besides the Roush/HMS teams. It's a matter of time before he wins again. Rusty should make the chase, but won't win the title.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 6, 2005 10:52:06 AM
DEI has 2 cars...not enough for testing. When DEI started it shared info with Childress and since they stopped both teams suffered.
Those who say Mikey has no talent...have never driven a race car. Build a car go to your local short track and race it. Then come back and talk smack.
I have watched NASCAR since 85 and ESPN had the most BORING and HORID broadcast. They forgot who was driving what car for crying out loud. The annuoncers never raced in thier life....yeah that was better....my ass!
FOX and NBC do a fine job of covering the races. If you dont like it turn the volume down and watch the ticker on the top of the TV. And who can bash DW? The man is a dork yes, but have some respect he was a great driver. DW came into the sport and in a short time became a contender, champion, and all time great. Benny Parsons is better? Benny was not a better driver than DW just ask Benny.
Geeze....its hard to believe some of you are NASCAR fans.
Posted by: robert | Jun 6, 2005 2:53:43 PM
Tru,
It gets as tiring for me to hear all you HMS fans tear down Jr as it is for you to hear me tear down all of the Hendrick drivers. So I guess we are even. :)
Posted by: Jon | Jun 6, 2005 8:11:27 PM
Yeah Jon, but at least Hendrick drivers are winning. I want to thank all of Dale Jr.'s sponsor's, they have sucked the life out of him with all of those stupid commericals that he can't drive anymore. Can't wait till he misses the chase, can't wait to see who he will blame. Maybe he'll blame Shane Hmiel for giving him bad "BUD".
Posted by: Bob | Jun 6, 2005 9:24:45 PM
Bob,
If winning is the only reason to be a fan of certain drivers then yes you are right. But fans pick their favorite drivers for mant reasons and I seriously doubt winning is the number one reason for many fans.
I started out a fan of Richard Petty and then a Dale Sr. fan shorty after he came on the NASCAR scene. Now as everyone knows I am a Jr fan, so it is not always about winning since each of them had stretches when winning wasn't in the cards. I will follow Jr no matter what team he ends up with.
Posted by: Jon | Jun 7, 2005 7:33:56 AM
What would be the likely hood, of DEI being bought out by RCR? I mean honestly this would be the smartest thing for both.
Posted by: TigOlBitty | Jun 7, 2005 7:58:10 AM
Jon - When do I get on here and tear down Jr? YOU on the other hand can NOT go one day without running them down. YEAH IT DOES GET OLD! Welcome to our world!!
And I know plenty of fans that get on here and don't run him down, WHAT? Fans should just sit back and let YOU run our favorite drivers down but don't you DARE say one thing about Junior?? I tell you what, I have never seen the likes of the hypocrites that I do on here.
Posted by: truracinfan | Jun 7, 2005 8:50:19 AM
Aight... kiddies
Who cares..about HMS getting some wins.. Hell I work for a Budweiser Wholesaler and was JR fan before that.. But if they pour the money into the cars to make them winning cars good for them whoever it is thats winning.. They have earned it. So everyone shut up already with the bickering about whos nuts are bigger.
Posted by: TigOlBitty | Jun 7, 2005 10:11:26 AM
How bout we take Harvick,Steweart,Junior,and Truex make them all teamates and wait to see what happens at the end of the season
Posted by: Gen2SHO | Jun 7, 2005 10:54:15 AM
Hell yeah.. That would work, just not with uncles, cousins, brothers, inlaws running the shop. Harvick and Stewart are buddies as is Junior and Stewart and the chemistry between Junior and Truex is pretty tight, or so it seems. Check back next week for an update..lol
Posted by: TigOlBitty | Jun 7, 2005 11:15:46 AM
Gen2SHO + TigOlBitty
you forgot to leave out the evil step mother.
RCR would get all these guys to work together.
DEI has 2 more years tops and the step mom will sell.
Posted by: speedracer | Jun 7, 2005 7:43:50 PM
Tru,
I said all the HMS fans not just you. I can go one day with tearing down HMS drivers, but it so much fun that I pretty much chose not to.
Posted by: Jon | Jun 7, 2005 8:54:16 PM
It Looks to me like Roush/Yates is starting to smile a little out of the side of his mouth with all this feuding between the Chevrolet Teams. I know this will make all you Jr fans see red, but maybe its time for DEI to start testing HMS Engines.
Posted by: J L Hardy | Jun 7, 2005 11:16:18 PM
I know this will make the HMS fans whine, but maybe NASCAR needs to statrt testing the Hendrick motors more carefully :)
Posted by: Jon | Jun 8, 2005 3:03:46 AM
19Jay12... I'm not doggin on the Penske cars... all I was pointing out is that for the past few years that camp as a whole has sucked! Yes Ryan is a good driver and has some wins and a ton of poles... but the past 2 years he hasn't been consistant...as a whole PRS hasn't been consistant... Next year will be an interesting year at Penske... that team as a whole will be left with only the arogance of Newman and Borland... who expect to have it handed to them... not earned... and dont' talk to me about points right now... where those 2 cars sit is NO COMFORT zone for being in contention for the Championship... 4th can turn to 13-14 in 1 race! I have to agree with Sadler comment.
Posted by: M Benson | Jun 8, 2005 8:15:08 AM
Maybe they should test the engines more often - that would you all you Hendrick Haters one LESS thing to bitch about!!
That wouldn't be any fun for you would it Jon?
Posted by: truracinfan | Jun 8, 2005 8:29:06 AM
Everyone knows NASCAR is controlled by money. Roush and Hendrick have plenty to fill the pockets of nascar and they DO. On the other hand DEI,RCR,JGR and others have that option as well, but I guess they dont cause well, you can tell on Sunday.
Posted by: Gen2SHO | Jun 8, 2005 10:07:26 AM
I am only getting annoyed with the FOX coverage of the races because if your favorite drive is not in the top 10 in points you just do not hear about them. I find that sad. Once a race, I might hear how Petty is doing, maybe every 2 races hear something about Gibbs racing. Even DEI seems to be relagated to the sidelines because their cars are not on top. It is sad to me. I have finally started listening to MRN during the race, just to get real coverage of the race.
ps. on the DW notes from above. The man can be a bit obnoixious. And I think he favors no one but himself, most certianly not the sniveling Gordon.
Posted by: babydragonlet | Jun 8, 2005 11:44:57 AM
Two Things.. The only money being moved around behind the scenes in nascar is at the shops dedicated towards R&D. No one is filling pockets from the garage into france pockets, they have got so damn much money Rick Hendrick giving Brian France 2 mil ontop of his share he already recieves from Nascar and its entities is nothing, and $2 million from a car owner would just be way more than anyone would expect a bribe would bring..
Secondly.. Who gives a shit about Carl Long, this isn't Fox's fault can you name any other sport where we know who isn't starring? We don't here about the bench rider for the Colorado Rockies in Asheville on there farm team the tourists.. And the pattern goes on down the line. Talking about 43 drivers is not realistic. A one hour broadcast typically has 42 minutes of broadcasting. Now divide 43 drivers from 4 hours of broadcasting.. That doesn't leave alot of time to talk about Hediko Fukenama or whatever his name is.. If you wanna support your driver call there race shop and tell them to get there car to the front so you can hear some press on them.
Posted by: TigOlBitty | Jun 8, 2005 2:52:58 PM
Tru,
I don't think Hendrick would agree with you since that means they would find their illegal engines. (before you go off I am playing around again)
Posted by: Jon | Jun 8, 2005 7:05:09 PM
DEI will have to help themselves? If MW placed where he was running when he got his 3 DNF's he would be third in points. How does he prevent blown motors or being punted by a team mate?
Posted by: Double E | Jun 9, 2005 12:10:30 AM
Your right M (Johnny) Benson,
Gordon fell from 3rd to 12th pretty quickly.
But Newman has 4 or 5 top tens in a row. Consistency is setting in for the #12 team.
It just seems like everyone think Penske is horrible, they are overall the best Dodge team this year. Better than EVernham and Ganassi. eVen better than some chevy and Ford teams. Gibbs, DEI, RCR, YATES,
the only team that's really running better is Roush and HMS. Next year, Borland and Newman will be doing the same thing they are this year. Arrogant or not they will be Contending for wins, getting an ass of poles, and whoever is in the #2 (hopefully anyone but MCMurray) will be running around 10 or 11th.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Jun 9, 2005 10:52:08 AM
Newman fan here... Your an idiot Jay.. Who else would u want other than McMurray? Realisticly he's the only person that isn't locked in and fits the demographic that Miller Brewing Co., wants in that car. So don't come back with Dale Jarrett, Ricky Rudd or Ken Schrader suggestions and they have already said they aren't gonna put a non contender and inexperienced driver in that car. Miller wants results and popularity now, Rusty is a big draw but someone 21 - 28 is gonna sell them more beer, than Ricky Rudd or even Dale Jarrett.
Posted by: TigOlBitty | Jun 9, 2005 2:56:36 PM
I find the feuding in here depressing. I know that people have favorites, but come on. When one team is down another is up. It goes back and forth. As far as JR on all these commercials, I think it is his decision to say yes or no to do them. He could just say no, I need to work with my team and get to know them more, by maybe going and playing something like minature golf or bowling. Something away from work, as racing is their work. Then maybe they would do better. Taking time away from racing would be good for everyone. I saw an interview that said about all Jr does is race.
As far as evil stepmoms I guess you haven't seen the "3" movie. Theresa isn't an evil stepmom. Stepmoms are what they make of themselves and I don't believe she is all that bad. She grew up around racing and helped Sr get into the sport.
The only comment I have about FOX's broadcast is that they do talk a lot about themselves and have to be reminded about the things going on. DW had to be reminded that Michael has trouble with fresh tires or what not. It's his brother, he should have know that.
Posted by: DEIbaby | Jun 15, 2005 5:33:07 PM
OMG..did someone say DW praises #8, only when he has to or the ass has accused Jr of somethng not true and has to backpeddle. No, it's Mikey, Mikey. I'm not a Mikey fan in cause you haven't picked that up. For me under DEI..It's Jr and if Martin signs it also Martin, but I could care less about Mikey. Part of the switch wasn't JUST because of Jr and Jr...it was to save the NAPA contract and Mikey had to win or else. So Jr was the sacrficial lamb for Mikey. As a Budweiser shareholder I don't want to see a dime go to Mikey and his team...it's Jr's sponsor and that's were it belongs...making Jr's tean better. I don't think it's Jr's decision or anyother drivers decision on appearances or commericals..they have contracts. And they have to be meet, regardless, it's up to the driver to make it work. Did you know that Jr. does the Domino's Pizza commericas with Mikey, but they are not his sponsor...I called, I support Jr's sponsors..their comment, "Waltrip is who we sponsor, Jr just does the commerical with him." Bullship..last time I order a Domino pizza! So that's my .02 worth like or leave it, sorry if that sounds so callous, but I express my opinion how I truly feel. Oh and the cursing bit...this isn't Nascar.com board...the "cussing" here is NOTHING compared to other sites and words like Bullshit, hell, damn, etc. are real words.offend you, then close your eyes and don't read them, this is the real word, were real people finally get a chance to express their views w/o Nascar deleting every other word. You don't need to use them and I applaud you, you are just a better person then me,when I get passioniate about what I beleieve in I can't help using a few cuss words, it helps me blow off steam. Sorry if I've offended you, but that's me.
Posted by: anterry8 | Jun 27, 2005 3:52:34 PM
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