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October 04, 2007
Of Talladega and Concord
By Bob Henry
I’m looking forward to this weekend’s races at Talladega Superspeedway. Always do. And next weekend, the circus will be in the Charlotte area. That’s Concord, N.C., to be more precise.
I don’t know whether there will be any resolution in the Bruton Smith vs. Concord Smackdown by then, but I have to wonder how all that impacts ticket sales at Lowe’s Motor Speedway. See Dennis Terry’s blog if you haven’t. There’s a good debate going on there about many of the issues involved.
The fall racing at Lowe’s Motor Speedway doesn’t have the attendance of May’s double-whammy weeks, with the all-star race and all the rest. May is still relatively early in the season and the excitement is still building for many fans.
By this time of year, though, there’s a lot more competition for the sports-entertainment dollar, as well as fans’ interest and time. Face it, some of the fan favorites are so far out of contention by now that some people simply care a lot less about stock car racing than they did in May.
If some fans are sitting on the fence, wondering whether they want to go or not, this week's headlines might help them decide. One way or the other.
For want of a tank of cheap gas
There’s no such track owner-neighbor animus around Talladega currently, but scenedaily.com is reporting that track officials expect smaller-than-usual crowds this weekend anyway. The site, part of the NASCAR Scene outfit, blames higher gas prices, saying that as many as 75 percent of Talladega’s ticket buyers travel from out of state.
The Jacques flak
Concern about having Canadian Jacques Villenueve on the track at Talladega apparently isn’t confined to the Nextel Cup garage. Jeff Gordon said last week he thought the former Formula One champion and Indianapolis 500 winner needed a few more NASCAR races under his belt before he strapped on a Talladega race.
Participants in a ThatsRacin.com poll agree, by a more than six-to-one margin.
I’ve voted with the minority and readily acknowledge that, yes, Villenueve has never raced at Talladega. But there have been lots of rookies, no shortage of bone-headed moves and plenty of "Big Ones" at the fast Alabama track over the years.
So why automatically assume that racing at Monaco, Monza or Spa prepares a driver any more or less for the rigors of Talladega than any number of laps on a short track - dirt or asphalt - in the Carolinas, Kansas or Missouri?
A good day for ESPN2
TV ratings for last weekend’s Nextel Cup race were down, which has happened so often this season that it’s getting harder every week to call it news. But the decline was significant, even if there was one of those silver linings attached.
Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Daily reported that ratings for the ABC portion of the afternoon and evening’s festivities were off 17.6 percent from what NBC posted a year earlier. The race coverage changed channels, to ESPN2, after the rain delays, and the numbers fell a little further, too.
But it was still the most-watched race ESPN2 has ever handled.
Total viewers? The sports business publication put that number at 4.1 million. The posse is still trying to track down those 71.9 million other NASCAR fans.
Good racing, good reading
Not to brag too much on our friend David Poole (I suspect he's pretty much immune), but he might have by now replaced the late James Brown as the "hardest-working man in show business."
The bragging part refers, specifically, to Thursday’s installment in his “Half the Battle” project about Jeff Burton and last season’s Chase.
Give it a look and see if his description of the toe-to-toe heavyweight match between Burton and Matt Kenseth at Dover last fall doesn’t vividly remind you not only of that great race, but why we're as nuts about this darned sport as we are.
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Just the Facts;
Thanks for addressing the point of my comment.
Posted by: EdPhil2 | Oct 22, 2007 8:40:41 AM
Geeser88...there was no Busch race last Saturday. However, the Truck race was entertaining.
After sleeping through the Talladega cup race (yes I was there), I think that I will spend my money next year on Charlotte tickets instead of Talladega tickets. As Johnson stated, the Chase has made the drivers more cautious at Dega. Since the boys don't want to race the entire 188 laps, I will save my money and go to a race where the drivers cannot hang out at the back most of the race and excpect to have a good finish.
Posted by: Dega was a snoozer | Oct 12, 2007 12:48:37 PM
Did anyone watch the Busch Race Saturday? If NBC can get NCAA football on Sundays, I'll be watching that as well.
Posted by: Geezer88 | Oct 11, 2007 2:52:24 PM
From EdPhil2: "Only the non-chase drivers are racing the whole race."
Hmmm...I thought that the #11 and the #20 were Chase drivers. Those two cars spent a lot of time out front on Sunday. In fact, Hamlin led the most laps in the race (40) and Stewart led the second most laps (38). Therefore, I sugest that before you make generalizations in the future, that you take the time to make sure that you at least know the facts.
Posted by: Just the Facts | Oct 10, 2007 6:28:18 PM
I've been going to both Talladega races for over 15 years. The chase format is hurting this race and I am struggling with putting forth the time, effort and money to essentially watch 20 laps of racing. The first 168 is watching the chase drivers trying to stay out of the BIG ONE.
If this keeps up they will be driving just fast enough to be able to reach the lead pack for the final 20 laps.
Only the non-chase drivers are racing the whole race. Jr. being the exception, the non-chase drivers don't have that many fans.
If ticket sales are down, that's my opinion of why, and it will get worse.
Posted by: EdPhil2 | Oct 9, 2007 4:25:30 PM
I was listening to Sadler's in car audio when he managed to get slowed down and stop in time to miss the big one just so Jacques slammed him in the side and ran past another 7 or 8 cars. (as per the live audio) The media has only said how clean a race he ran and didn't hit anybody. I guess Nascar will cover for these F1 guys no matter what they do!
Posted by: Leslie Smith | Oct 9, 2007 7:29:36 AM
wow
that was an awesome monday night football game, wasn't it ??
Posted by: exile | Oct 9, 2007 3:53:09 AM
Good post Bob,
I think we all have our reasons why we don't go to these races and they are all valid.I don't go(and have not been watching some of them)due to the chase.I agree they have priced themselves out of most peoples budgets.Everything is higher and just how much money does someone in the 18-40 year old age group have?Last time I checked,I have more money to spend now than I did then.That's who NASCAR wants.
Posted by: Short Lady | Oct 6, 2007 7:17:41 PM
Love,
That's why, we, "True fans," have a throw away kid. With a TK it's half off on the tickets. Back in the day, we had to negotiate a price, for the wife, to get in. This led to all sorts of marital problems, like, "boot to the head." It's much simpler, now, since none of the family can afford it. Although, I still get "boot to the head," now and then.
Posted by: Keith | Oct 5, 2007 4:03:17 PM
The reason that I do not attend more of the Fall races is b/c I cannot afford to. The Chase does not factor into my decision to go to the race or stay home. A race weekend at Charlotte, Atlanta or Martinsville will cost me at least $450 for each race weekend (hotel, gas, food, cheap ticket, etc). I live 40 miles from Tallagega; therefore, there is not as much cost associated with attending that race (even though it is my least favorite track) If I could afford to attend all four of the October NASCAR races, then I would.
Furthermore, people like me that have long daily commutes to work, the increased gas cost is a huge burden. I drive 190 miles roundtrip each day. Thus, it cost around $400 per month just for gasoline to drive to work. Any small increase in gas cost is a huge hit to my wallet.
Posted by: Love Racing | Oct 5, 2007 2:29:15 PM
Trucker,
That's it? "Great Post?" No NHRA stuff? Chicken soup and a comforter my brother...you ain't well.
Posted by: Keith | Oct 5, 2007 10:38:58 AM
It's all about the cost of going. I live close to charlotte, martinsville, atlanta, and talledega isnt that bad of a drive. I make decent money and go by myself and i can only pay for 2 races out of the 4. My wallet hurts even more in april and may when i hit darlington with martinsville and the 2 charlotte weekends.
Any given race weekend for me and 1 other is:
90$ for 2 of the cheapest tickets including extra fees.
50$ in gas there and back.
15$ food while traveling.
20$ food while there cause im too lazy to drag a cooler around.
20$ play money
so its roughly 200$ per race weekend to go and if you hit two in a month it becomes $400 +
Can't imagine what it would cost to take a family to just 1 race. Especially if you dont sit in the cheapest seats.
Posted by: tarheel24 | Oct 5, 2007 9:39:46 AM
Great Post Bob.
Posted by: Trucker | Oct 5, 2007 9:36:49 AM
Mike Daly,
High five. They are voting with their wallets. Seems to be the only way we get attention. But, ignoring the Chase (I always do), it's not the Chase that keeps them from spending the dollars...It's the race. NASCAR seems intent on keeping the fun out of it.
GTG, makes a good point. Every race is a mini-championship by itself. A trophy from any of these tracks goes on the mantle. The Chase relagates 1/4 of the season to watching 12 guys...no track history, no 31 other competitors...it's all about the Chase. And, lol, Chase IV (Don't the roman numerals make it look better?) has sucked.
But, GTG, Mike is right...If the show was there, we would come. Bad economy, gas prices, whatever...If the show was there, we would come.
Posted by: Keith | Oct 5, 2007 7:19:50 AM
Sorry GTG, the economy isn't that weak. I'm not buying the economy argument or gas-price argument - ticket and other prices have something to do with it, but I think it's primarily that fans despise the Chase format (with ample reason) and are voting with their wallets not to prop it up. They do go to see a good race, but if it's subsumed into a point system that forces drivers not to fight for anything, then the integrity of that particular race is affected.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Oct 5, 2007 12:36:32 AM
Bob,
LOL, no, I said I'd carry the bag up the hill...The clubs will still be down at the bottom of the hill for you to choose from.
Posted by: Keith | Oct 4, 2007 9:20:55 PM
here's why i'm not going to any of the
four....work. i'm "covered up". if i work
every weekend in October, i'll still be
behind. (seems like all the pregnant
women around here are "due" this month).
Posted by: john of sparta | Oct 4, 2007 8:42:42 PM
Dang it, Keith. Golf is HARD! And you're bluffing about carrying the bag. I've had mountain goats shake their heads and say n-a-a-a-a at some of the places I've attempted to play.
Posted by: Bob H. | Oct 4, 2007 8:41:35 PM
Bob,
LOL, what no golfing this week?
Gas prices? Maybe, in the ZR-1, but the VW could handle it. The smart fan, buses in and avoids the 3hr stop and go. Maybe, when Bruton builds a new track, Charlotte can become satellite parking.
Wrong on Jacques. Talent is a given...But, this is playoff season. If you weren't part of the regular season, how can you be part of the playoffs.
On, those 71.9 million viewers. Imaginary numbers were defined by Rafael Bombelli (No he wasn't an open wheel driver)in 1572. Through a random time fluctuation, he still works for NASCAR.
David does indeed put forth good effort. Imagine what he could do if good restaurants weren't so close to the race tracks!
Nice post...LOL, I'll carry your golf bag up those hills. You'll have to go back down to find the club you want.
Posted by: Keith | Oct 4, 2007 8:20:09 PM
Fans go to the races to see a good race. Most could care less about the point standings. Back in the days before the Chase, fans still went to races even if their favorite driver could not win the championship. If my favorite driver was not in the Chase, I would still go to the race to see him try and win the race.
What is hurting NASCAR ticket sales is the fact that the economy is week. During the last few years, the price of most goods and services have increased much higher than the average workers rate of pay. Less discretionary income, means more fans have to watch the races from home.
Posted by: GTG | Oct 4, 2007 7:26:45 PM
Bob i'm calling you out...call a spade a spade the France Family Mafia have priced themselves out of Family entertainment!
Posted by: Fan#5 | Oct 4, 2007 6:42:16 PM
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