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May 03, 2005
Why? They aren't the only ones out there.
Why is it that someone is automatically called a Earnhardt fan is they say something negative against Jeff Gordon or Jimmie Johnson? Why is that if anyone says anything negative against Earnhardt Jr., that they must me a Gordon or Johnson fan? I don't get it. There are other drivers out there, not everyone pulls for one of those three. Yes, they have large followings and their fans are vocal, but just because I, or anyone else, says something negative against Johnson or Gordon, it does not automatically make us an Earnhardt fan or vice versa.
Remember, there are 43 cars in the field each week and they all have fans, maybe not as many as Gordon, Johnson or Earnhardt Jr., but they do have fans, that's something the media should keep in mind too.
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Btw the kid named Allen seems to be a typical armchair crew chief. And the comment about the Bodines. if you knew any history some of you would know that if it werent for Geoff Bodine most drivers would have to retire after about 10 yeasr since he was the one that put power steering in the racecars and also has helped Bill Simpson and other companies with driver safety. he also won his share of races.
As for jj and jeff and Jr , they are all good drivers but they all whine that its never their fault and they all wreck and block people but gosh forbid you dare do it to them.
I do have to agree that NASCAR wants a golden boy to win the 05 championship and Im sure Biffle is not what they have in mind.Look at how little they marketed Kurt after he won.
NASCAR and new fans are ruining the sport with all this politically correct garbage and sucking out its soul. Im glad when Tony and Kevin and others tell it like it is. Do you all really think that Jeff would have moved out of Tony`s way a couple races ago knowing his car was not running well and was that much slower considering they went a few laps like that? Tony barely touched him but Loomis screamed like Jeff was shot and the sky was falling.Take the mirrors out, tell the spotters they can only tell where the accidents are and let these guys race dang it!!!!
Posted by: beth | Jun 17, 2005 11:14:17 AM
OK the ignorance by some posting in here is nicredible. The slam that only chicks, kids and yankees like the hendricks drivers is way off base and what i expect from some new fans that have never left their own towns,never mind states.Let me tell you that as a yankee chick very few people up here like johnson as much as they like jr or tony or even just some good ole racing without a bunch of whining and made up as they go rules that is killing the sport.
Do you know that the drivers think you fans that hate other drivers are pretty dumb since most get along well off the track? To wish that anyone wrecks shows how much you dont know about racing. For DEI fans to yell about Gordon and for the HMS fans to yell back is hysterical. You look like a bunch of idiots and all this controversy is in your heads. Each driver has a different style of driving. Tony can drive anything,some drivers can only drive asphalt. Some are better on short tracks some excel at plates or road courses. You fans squabbling have no clue and are ruining the sport.
Posted by: beth | Jun 17, 2005 11:02:21 AM
Jeff Gordon is one of the best racers of all time (and this is coming from an Earnhardt fan for over 20 yrs.). However, no matter how many races or championships he wins, he will never be embraced like Dale Sr. (JMO) Why?
Because it's about more than the wins and championships: it's about the man. Gordon has a PC, polished, corporate America image.....almost too perfect. Groomed from an early age to be a driver by his stepfather (whom he later replaced when his bitch of an ex-wife told him to), he went on to be the best competition that Dale Sr had in a long time. Jeff learned alot from Sr and Jeff's level of competitiveness made Sr sit up and take notice and find some of the spark that had started to dim.
In contrast, Dale Sr. was a high school dropout that became a champion and multi-millionaire by being tough as nails, taking no enemies, and driving his ass off at every opportunity. Two men, completely different, both champions.
Alot of the Sr. fans follow Jr. because they know that the "handed everything by his father" theory is a load of crap. everyone knows what a tenderhearted softie Dale SR. was (yeah right).
I am a DEI fan through and through and I don't pull for Gordon, but I don't hate him either. Hate is a strong word for a person I have never met and has never done anything to do me personally.
Jimmie Johnson; however, is really started to wear thin on more than a few people's nerves, both drivers and fans.
Posted by: Serena | May 9, 2005 9:38:53 PM
you fools
nascar does not take money from anyone.
they base their decisions on money though.
They f*&ked ESPN after they went mainstream.
The race for the chase. To get more money because the more people that watch the more networks bid. Hey they are smart, alot of the push you see on TV comes from FOX. They have agenda the push and hype the teams that have the following, which brings more people to watch, which sells the commercial spots, which brings up the price. FOX is as much to blame as NASCAR.
But think about you all are doing just what they want. You are talking about it and that's makes more people want to watch.
We have all been suckered since that first TV commercail we seen, we were sold on it from day one. We still do it everyday, we base alot of our decisions on what we hear and see.
Dam I need a coke, for thats what my driver drinks.
Posted by: speedracer | May 9, 2005 7:39:23 AM
gordon is not better thatn dale earnhardt,not at all.wins are wins,but dale just rocked out nascar.
Posted by: Allen | May 8, 2005 5:37:42 PM
Sara
Did you actually watch Gordon's rookie season. He wrecked a bunch of cars that year. I remember Hendrick saying that he didn't know if he was coing to be able to afford to keep building and repairing racecars for him.
Posted by: chevysucks | May 7, 2005 7:06:00 AM
- Jeff Gordon arrived at rain-soaked Darlington Raceway on Thursday without fanfare just like the other Nextel Cup drivers that will drive in Saturday night's race at NASCAR's oldest superspeedway.
There was no red carpet.
There was no special treatment.
There was nothing to make the moment different than any other day at the track.
But those who will compete against Gordon in Saturday night's race understand he is not just another driver. They look at him the same way Gordon looked at seven-time champions Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt when he made his Nextel Cup debut in 1993.
Like he's a living legend.
"I don't know about that," Gordon said. "But I sense a feeling of more respect in the garage area, and even outside the garage area, than when I first started winning races."
It goes beyond respect. Some compare being on the track with Gordon to being on the basketball court with Michael Jordan or the baseball field with Ted Williams.
"Absolutely," Dale Earnhardt Jr. said. "He's one of the most talented guys that's ever sat in a stock car. Sometimes you get out there and get racing with him and get so competitive that you take it for granted.
"But you're going to look back on racing with him one day and wish you hadn't taken it for granted."
Points leader Jimmie Johnson, Gordon's Hendrick Motorsports teammate, agreed.
"One thing I wish I could have done was race against Earnhardt (Sr.) for the same reason," he said. "These are the heroes and faces of the sport that are going to be remembered for generations."
It's too early to call Gordon the best ever, but he is heading in that direction. He earned his 72nd win Sunday at Talladega to move within four of the late Earnhardt for sixth on the all-time victory list.
He's only 12 behind Darrell Waltrip on the modern era win list, and at 33 years old he's way ahead of Waltrip's pace. Of the six drivers ahead of him, only Richard Petty, who tops the list with 200 wins, earned his 72nd victory earlier. Petty reached that mark at the age of 30, but he did it in an era when drivers ran almost twice as many races as today.
David Pearson, second on the all-time list with 105 wins, was 38 when he got to 72. Bobby Allison (84 wins) was 44, Darrell Waltrip (84) 41, Cale Yarborough (69) 43 and Earnhardt a few days shy of his 48th birthday.
"To say he has more or less talent of any of those wouldn't be fair," 1999 Cup champion Dale Jarrett said. "But he obviously has as much talent as anybody that's ever been in this sport. He's not going to race long enough to catch Richard's 200 wins, but it's a very, very real possibility of him going past seven championships if he stays in it that long."
Teammate Terry Labonte said what Gordon has done in a short time is incredible.
"I watched that race at Talladega," he said. "It was amazing how he got shuffled out and came back and won. He didn't knock anybody out of the way or run anybody over. He just did it.
"Maybe it's because I'm seeing it happen, but looking back on it one day, it's going to be amazing the things he's done."
Humpy Wheeler, the president of Lowe's Motor Speedway in Charlotte, was amazed the first time he saw Gordon. And it wasn't because Gordon's first pole was at his track in the fall of 1993.
"When he first came into this everybody was saying, 'What's this guy got?'" Wheeler said. "I said, 'Just go in the corner where you've got to let off the throttle and see how much further he goes in the corner than the rest of the guys.
"That's only another 50 to 150 feet, but that's the difference between being in first and being in fifth. He's still doing that."
Few have been more versatile than Gordon. He has 10 wins on the restrictor-plate tracks of Daytona and Talladega. He has 11 wins on the half-mile tracks of Bristol and Martinsville. He has eight wins on the road courses of Infineon and Watkins Glen.
He has six victories at Darlington, considered by many the toughest track on the circuit, and he might have added No. 7 in the fall had it not been for a pit-road mishap on the final stop.
"Most of the great drivers were good everywhere, but he's really great everywhere," Labonte said.
Just as impressive is the way Gordon avoids conflict. He seldom pushes a driver to take revenge as Kurt Busch attempted this year at Martinsville. About the only time he is invited to NASCAR's hauler is when officials seek his advice.
"Many people thought the next great rivalry when he came in was going to be Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt," Wheeler said. "It never happened. In fact, they became friends. Two people that are significantly different personality-wise and upbringing-wise, they ended up going into partnership on real estate deals."
Earnhardt Jr. said his father always spoke of Gordon with tremendous respect.
"It was pretty evident how he felt about Jeff," he said. "It's not a surprise he's about to eclipse his mark in wins. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get several more [championships]. I don't see him slowing down any."
Perhaps the only thing that will slow Gordon is himself. Few expect him to drive into his late 40s or early 50s as did many of the great drivers of the past.
"It would be easy for me to say he'll probably go to 40," crew chief Robbie Loomis said. "But when you start getting close to that mark, it's going to depend on the success he's having. If he's winning races and he's still contending for championships, you're going to see him around for a lot longer."
Wheeler wouldn't be surprised to see Gordon stop at age 40 because, unlike drivers before him, he will not need the money; Gordon is the sports all-time money leader with $69,913,011, more than $20 million better than second place on the money list.
"How many more races could he win between now and then?" Wheeler said. "He could easily win another 24 or 25."
Gordon has averaged 5.88 wins a year, counting his winless first season in 1993. At that pace, he would blow past David Pearson - second on the all-time list with 105 wins - by 40 and spark debate of whether he is the greatest all-time driver.
Posted by: jose | May 7, 2005 12:25:48 AM
Laura,
Talk about needing to grow up.
Posted by: Jon | May 7, 2005 12:04:49 AM
I love that so many of you ppl hate Jeff Gordon and wish he would lose and wreck....because he does the COMPLETE OPPOSITE more often than not...how does it feel when he wins?!?!?! Ill tell you...IT FEELS AWESOME!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA SUCK THAT!!
Posted by: Laura | May 6, 2005 10:37:23 PM
i would just like to say that anyone who hates Gordon feels that way because their driver just isnt as good. I dont care who you are, if you cant admit that he is THE best active driver in the Nextel Cup circuit right now, you are too damn stubborn and need to grow up. I hate Earnhardt Jr but if he were driving like Jeff has been since he broke out in the series i would give him his dues. And Jimmie Johnson is driving just like everyone else. Atleast he didnt spin himself out to stop from going a lap down (ahem Earnhardt Jr - so lame)
Posted by: Laura | May 6, 2005 10:30:19 PM
Hey Tru, my bashing of Gordon is all in good fun. I really and truly never would wish injuries on Jeff or Jimmie. I just would like for them to get the taste of what they have been dishing out over the years. Jeff Gordon is a very talented driver and 72 wins and 4 Winston Cups will attest to that, but I still don't have to like him. :)
Jimmie Johnson hasn't earned any respect and if he continues to be in the middle of the controversy over his SUSPECTED rough driving he will never get the respect he might very well deserve.
Posted by: Jon | May 6, 2005 7:12:23 PM
Allen,
Wading through your illiterate posts is worse than listening to a mouth-breathing Jeff Gordon interview (you know, where he just yammers on and on and on, failing to take even one, ONE inhalation through his nose.)
Dude, there is a space bar on the bottom of that thar' keyboard. I recommend using it.
Alan
Posted by: Alan Woody | May 6, 2005 2:01:51 PM
Its kind of funny to me that Jr. fans seem to be the ones that are the hardest on Gordon. You would think that they would cut him some slack, especially since most of the remarks were also used on us Dale Sr. fans (except the gay remark)through the years. I'm not a Gordon fan but I'm not going to bash or boo anyone who is willing to do what they do and risk what they risk. Jon does bring up a good point about Gordon and missing wrecks, though. I think it was the first or second race ever at Texas and Gordon hit the wall a ton and when the in-car showed him taking his helmet off, he was crying. It may just be a coincidence that Texas is his worst track for average finish, hmmmm. I'm not picking at him for crying, but I think thats when a lot of the gay and effeminate remarks started.
Posted by: Michael | May 6, 2005 1:56:27 PM
Monica I am telling you know dear, that you aren't going to change their minds. They don't like him and never will and won't listen to anything you have to say otherwise. Especially Jon.
Just don't even waste your time!!
Posted by: truracinfan | May 6, 2005 12:10:32 PM
lol,thatd be awsome.and monica,just cause ur in nascar doesnt mean ur a good driver,look at bodine,johnson and the feild fillers...yeah.
Posted by: Allen | May 6, 2005 11:06:54 AM
Monica,
I yell and cheer for Gordon to crash during a race, but I don't wish any injuries on him. He is of the few drivers that have been able avoid major wrecks for his entire career. So just because we wish he would crash does that make us bad fans, I don't think so. I would just love to hear what Gordon would have to say about his Golden Boy if he was to get caught up in a wreck that Johnson caused.
Posted by: Jon | May 6, 2005 6:56:43 AM
I sure can`t understand all the hatred there is out there. I`m a big Gordon fan, but believe it or not, I also like Jr. and Mikey and alot of drivers, I`m not to fond of Jr. fans that live around here though. I cannot wear a Gordon shirt without getting my ass jumped, hearing he sucks, he`s gay, he cheats and all of the same old bullshit. You know, I wouldn`t dream of saying bad things about their driver to them, why is that Gordon fans are always fair game? I actually know people that yell and cheer (during a race) for Gordon to crash, and I wonder why? Is that the only way they feel they`re driver has a chance to win? Why don`t all you people who post in here just try to be a little nicer to everyone, and realize everyone has a right to like who ever they want, and all of the driver are the greatest drivers, or they wouldn`t be in NASCAR !!!!!!!!!
Posted by: monica | May 6, 2005 2:48:42 AM
sean,i have no life.
don,nascar taking bribes from hendrick fits in perfectly in whats going on.all they care about is money and popularity.na$crap'$ history and prestige is dying,and its to the point now that i wish it would.
Posted by: Allen | May 5, 2005 8:01:24 PM
Actually, I agree with you Truracinfan. I think the "golden boy" image is someting that's been foisted onto Gordon by his sponsors and the media. It's not too hard to see why people seized on his "perfection" early on - he was a young, smiling, clean-cut driver without a drawl who never wrecked, which was more unique back when he started than now. I think it's an oversimplification, but I used that word because that's how many fans feel.
Posted by: Sara | May 5, 2005 5:29:18 PM
I think I know what Alan is saying about NASCAR being dead and falling to people like Johnson. I would have to agree. NASCAR has pushed so hard to be mainstream that they have almost killed the personality of the individual driver. They are like the kid pushing so hard to make everyone like them that they will wind up with no one being their friend. For example, why would you want a track in the greater Seattle or NYC areas. Granted, Biffle and Kahne come from the Washington State area, but they are the exception, not the norm. Both places have repeatedly told NASCAR/ISC no thanks, but they won't the hint. I'm not saying that these are not great places, but NASCAR country it ain't. They gave Cali a second date and can't give the tickets away, so it's not about fan base, its about wanting to fit in. And don't think that owners won't bow to media pressure, look at the Minnesota Vikings and Randy Moss. Personally, I think this is NASCAR'S last big run before the downhill slide. This ain't our daddy's NASCAR. Alan, if that isn't what you meant, sorry.
Posted by: Michael | May 5, 2005 1:52:40 PM
Sean
Sometimes it's hard to figure out what Allen means, the way he writes.
It's not the first time he has put forth the theory the NASCAR takes bribes from Hendrick.
So just consider the source when you read his comments
Posted by: Don | May 5, 2005 1:19:06 PM
Allen what did your last comment mean?
Also kiddo life is way too short to be so consumed. I know you are just beginning your life but really take it from someone who knows and embrace it all. You don't have to love everything but build your life around what you love and like instead of what you dislike or hate.
Posted by: Sean | May 5, 2005 11:35:36 AM
Sara and others - where does everyone get the idea that Gordon "perfect" There is no perfect person and he makes mistakes just as much as anyone else does. The MEDIA is making a lot of these drivers in the image that they want, we see and read what THEY want us to see and read. Gordon has said himself that he has never tried to come across as perfect, because he is not. I think it is just an excuse for some people to not like him, being "too perfect" when it really should be that he is just good and beats there driver too much, or he didn't pay his dues (which is crap)Whether you like or dislike him, you have to admit that he CAN driver the heck out of a race car! I may not like the same drivers as everyone else, BUT I RESPECT them, I respect them for their ability to get out there and drive a car and risk their lives to entertain us each week. They all paid their dues, some had a harder time making it to others, but the have all done their time.
Posted by: truracinfan | May 5, 2005 11:15:24 AM
nascar is dead.only to fall to people like johnson...
Posted by: Allen | May 5, 2005 11:14:45 AM
That's the truth Jenn. There have been countless threads comparing Jr/Gordon to Earnhardt Sr/Petty to the point of nausea. The history of the sport is being lost. As old fans die off there wont be the stories passed on. Even the really well knowns like Petty will be forgotten drivers. That's a scary thought isn't it.
Posted by: Sean | May 5, 2005 1:08:21 AM
johnson aint no good driver,he the skill of steve park or sterling marling,and hendrick bribes nascar and tv people to be nice,talk nice and favor him,they also even let him cheat.it fits perfectly in what is going on.and u gotta figure out how good a driver harvick is,i pay attention to every driver very closely and watch how smooth and good they are and here a my top 3
#1sewart;just a pure awsome driver
#2gordon;awsome driver
#3harvick;beutiful car control
Posted by: Allen | May 4, 2005 7:26:49 PM
Argh Sean, thanks for that little nudge back into reality. Not being sarcastic either by the way, just thinking. Who will the kids a decade from now see as the greatest racer of all time? Will they be mentioning Jr, Stewart, Gordon, Johnson, et all in the same breath as Petty and Earnhardt? Oh wait...they already do that. Blah!
Posted by: Jenn | May 4, 2005 1:43:44 PM
No Jay
I didn't jump on a bandwagon, I saw my first NASCAR race in 1963, and have been a Jeff Fan since I saw him run his first year in Cup.
And that was before I knew anything about him, except that boy sure knew how to drive. And was going places, and maybe, just maybe break a few records along the way. I don't dislike any driver. But there are some I sure don't mind seeing lose a race.
Posted by: Don | May 4, 2005 1:35:22 PM
Kathy, Dale Sr died four years ago. In another ten years Gordon will be long gone. I doubt Jr or Stewart will be racing either. Harvick, Newman, Johnson winding down. The twenty year old watching at that time will have no memory of Earnhardt Sr and with Jr, Stewart and Gordon gone which personalities will come to the forefront and provide fan rivalries? Other than Kurt Busch I see no other driver who brings out the emotion in a fan.
Posted by: Sean | May 4, 2005 1:11:14 PM
In other words Don, you're a bandwagon jumper. I know it's so easy to root for the guy who wins all the time.
Posted by: Jay | May 4, 2005 1:04:04 PM
LOL Sara... okay well a well funded underdog then ok :) I see all those red shirts out there and hear all that cheering and don't tell me they are pulling for those red dodges either. :) Kurt is getting as many boos as Jeff is but somehow I don't see the Busch fanbase and the Gordon fanbase uniting. hehe.
I do think one of the fan based problems with Jeff before and certaintly after Lowes came on board is that he's corporate driven. He's climbing the ladder so to speak. He's involved in the business end and has been for awhile now. He wears a business suit under his racing uniform. To some that appears perfect or as I've seen it written so many times.."Not one of us." But that's one of the things I admire about him. He's a go getter. Makes things happen. I think if we could view him through a hidden camera we'd see some of his flawed persona come out.
Posted by: Sean | May 4, 2005 1:03:22 PM
WHO CARES ! I AM A GORDON FAN BUT, I ALSO LIKE THE OTHERS ~ EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE "DISSIN" IS TO START A FRIENDLY SPATTIN' MATCH WITH FELLOW NASCAR FANS? AND FOR THE WOMEN, KIDS ETC. AND CRYING LIKE A BABY ~ WATCH SOME OF THE OTHERS ALITTLE CLOSER ~ THEY ALL DO IT!
Posted by: LORI | May 4, 2005 12:51:23 PM
I am a harvick fan but I still can not stand Jimmy Johnson. He is a terible driver and he never can admit any type of responsibility for his actions.
I taught my children long ago to just fess up when they make a mistake. Be a man I would tell my son. You'll be better for it if you do. So I guess Johnson feels he's above accepting responsibility for anything.
Seems kind of chicken shit to me.
PS - Johnson is just hanging on for now because what goes around comes around buddy.
Posted by: speedracer | May 4, 2005 12:49:35 PM
I can't stand Jeff (Dirty driver) Gordon and I root for anybody to win but him. Kurt Bush is my favorite driver then Mark Martin then Carl Edwards and all other ford drivers . Dale Earnheardt has no personality and cries like a little baby when something goes wrong
Posted by: John Ferrier | May 4, 2005 12:24:08 PM
Before any panty-wadness ensues, let me clarify - Gordon is the "New York Yankees," in that he's well funded and numbingly perfect. And very divisive because of it!
Posted by: Sara | May 4, 2005 12:22:56 PM
Gordon is the Yankees. 'Nuff said. But really, underdog? Actually, the only time I ever seriously pulled for Gordon was at Bristol in late 2002. He'd been going through that long winless streak, and it just made him so much more...human. It's hard to identify with someone who's perfect all the time. It may sound silly to someone who doesn't think the same way, but that's the only way to explain it. I'm a Southern woman - I like my heroes flawed.
Posted by: Sara | May 4, 2005 12:21:20 PM
MB and Sara you made all my points for me thanks!!!!
I'll add my reason for supporting Jeff. It's not that he's clean cut or his looks. I admire that he made it to the top of his profession. Like any sport it's hard to get to the top level. That as a child he was given a car, liked it and stuck with it for 27 years. How many kids do you know bounce from one activity to another? That he was always one of the youngest amongst all his peers and somehow he over came that. That at 24 years young, still one of the youngest and without many peers his age, he started winning, recieved endless heckling and yet he endured it with grace and dignity. That he went through a personal issue never using it as an excuse. That he has spread his wings beyond the sport of racing.
Those are my reasons all of which someone else might find silly or unimportant and that's is their perogative.
But Kathy to answer your question further it's an easy assumption when viewing racing forums. Earnhardt and Gordon fans are the mojority of posters. But fans of other drivers seem to side with Earnhardt fans. Look at Jay's comment. He's a Mayfield fan, but likes Jr, loved Sr and likes Newman and Stewart. I've never seen a Stewart fan who liked Gordon and didn't like Earnhardt. It's always been I like Jr and Tony but I hate Gordon. Same with Newman. Park fans like Jr not so much Gordon. Wallace fans the same. As I see it you're all subsets that makes up one large set. :) Add that as another reason why I support Jeff.. everyone is agin him hehe. Got to support an underdog.
Posted by: Sean | May 4, 2005 12:04:20 PM
amen,like i said about that nascar/hendrick bribery scheme.it fits perfectly.
Posted by: Allen | May 4, 2005 11:52:31 AM
I see it as a very clear difference between the personalities and driving styles of the drivers. I was an Earnhardt, Sr. fan and now I'm for Harvick/Stewart/Jr. These guys tell it like it is (whether nascar likes it or not), they're emotionally charged and race to win with the kind of determination the drivers of old had. The "other" guys (JG, JJ, Kahne and others along the same line) fit too nicely into nascar's poster-boy image, and are just too kiss-bottom to nascar. That said my opinion of JG has gone up a lot in the last year after watching JJ and others! But I'm tired of the announcers putting blame on everyone other than JJ when he's caused 4 wrecks in the last 3 races. The replays made it pretty clear who did what.
Posted by: b | May 4, 2005 11:34:50 AM
You're right there, MB. If I have to listen to one more mall brat in a Bud baby-doll t-shirt rhapsodize about how sexy Jr is, I'm gonna lose it. I mean, he's filled out in the last few years and I guess he cleans up nice, but when I first started watching racing he was a little too scrawny for my tastes. I like the #8 'cause it's a damn good team. I hate this attitude that a woman can only be into a particular driver because of his "sex appeal." That's why Fox's "sexiest driver" crap pisses me off so much.
Posted by: Sara | May 4, 2005 9:30:57 AM
Sara, I try always to make a clear distinction between the real fans of a superstar driver and the goggle-wearing fanatics. Every driver has some of the latter but,unfortunately for the serious fans, the noisiest nutcase types "follow" the top stars. :-D
Posted by: MBVoelker | May 4, 2005 9:03:54 AM
i said most of his fans and yeah,i probably exagerated some,but i dont think i dissed his fans.chicks= girls,they think he cute.kids=kids just like jeff for some reason,i even did 7 years ago when i was 8.yankee=southern term for people who live above the mason dixin line,they just seem to like him...and no,im not from OK.im from the ungreat state of LA(lower arkansas lol)..but i want to move to OK when i turn 18.
Posted by: Allen | May 3, 2005 10:25:01 PM
Allen
I'm not a chick, kid or Yankee, and have lived in the south my entire life.
I support Gordon because he is the best
Posted by: Don | May 3, 2005 6:27:53 PM
They are all three Chevy drivers. There is a whole cadre of Ford and Dodge fans that don't like either of the three and would not be caught dead being associated with either the 8, 24 or 48
Posted by: les | May 3, 2005 5:40:18 PM
MB - I've got several drivers I like and pull for, but Jr's the main one. And I'm sure Jr's got quite a few bandwagon fans who'll lose interest and go away eventually (we can only hope).
Posted by: Sara | May 3, 2005 4:31:35 PM
No reminders needed here Allen, it hit just southeast of us.
Posted by: Kathy | May 3, 2005 4:29:55 PM
Only too true.
Say a word about either of the superstars and their goggle-wearing fanatics are all over you.
I'm not a fan of either myself. I root for Biffle, Busch, Busch, Kasey, Ryan, Mark Martin, DJ, Carl, and Mayfield. But the fanatic types figure there are only 2 drivers out there and all the other cars are just scenery (and that the others should get out of the way when the star is comming through).
Posted by: MBVoelker | May 3, 2005 4:24:36 PM
Sheesh, Allen. So, why chicks and kids (the yankees I get, but it's not like they have no other drivers to choose from!)? Believe it or not, some fans love Gordon because he's clean-cut. I have relatives who fret for my soul 'cause my driver curses and drinks beer (I'm not losing any sleep). I know you're just trying to make a point, but don't make generalizations like that, OK?;)
Posted by: Sara | May 3, 2005 3:59:32 PM
OK Allen, are you from the great state of OK??
You say you aren't dissin Gordon, but you just did his fans by calling them all chicks, kids or yankees. I am none of them, thank you!!
Posted by: truracinfan | May 3, 2005 3:32:40 PM
oh BTW this is the 6th year aniversary since the last F-5 tornado in oklahoma city in may 3 '99,wind speeds of 318MPH,the highes wind speeds ever.there hasnt been an f-5 since then,44 people died and around 800 injured...yeah,nothing to do with racing but im one of those tornado freaks.lol.
Posted by: Allen | May 3, 2005 3:16:55 PM
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