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November 13, 2005
Busch out -effective immediately
It was announced this morning, that Kurt Busch was suspended from Roush Racing for the final two races of the season over concerns of his traffic citation on Friday night. Kenny Wallace will drive the car this weekend at Phoenix and Todd Kluever will drive the car in the final race at Homestead
Wow! Never saw that coming. Just yesterday, when I read about Busch's incident on Friday night, I also read that Roush said that they planned to take no action on it. I guess the question is, did they learn more or was Roush lying when he said that on Saturday?
It was definitely a surprise and according to a statement Busch made, alcohol was not involved and he even apologized to the sheriff's department. Maybe it was just the last straw for Roush, everyone knows he was not happy when Busch said he signed with Penske and wanted to leave early, which Roush finally gave the nod too.
Nothing was said if NASCAR had any hand in this or not, or if they plan to take action themselves. It was also said that since he is still under contract with Roush until the end of the season, he cannot drive a car for another team.
I know that most people don't like Busch, and I'm one of them, but it makes me wonder if this incident by Busch could have possibly opened the door for Roush to do something about his unhappiness without making it seem like revenge?
I know most Roush fans won't like reading that, but to me, Roush has changed a lot since his plane crash. Maybe he hasn't really changed that much, maybe he is just being more outspoken and the media is covering it more. It's just that no matter the outward appearance he tried to give, Roush was mad about the whole Busch deal in the first place.
Your thoughts?
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I think it is all BS, busch blew a .017, that is even below the CDL %. Jack Roush was just pissed off, his championship driver is leaving, what an ungratful a$$. Yeah whatever roush, crown royal released a statement saying the decision was roush's, they would just back him up, all they wanted was their loge taken off the car. If it have been edwards or biffle, they would have walked. Why else does busch now have Biffle and Stewart Defending him, because it is crap. I was a huge roush fan, but see ya later, no more. A$$hole
Posted by: KB FAN 97-2 | Dec 19, 2005 3:29:40 PM
Now what do you all have to say about Kurt and it being alcohal related since the breathalizer that he took is out and mouthwash would have registered higher then what he had in his system! Also that the sheriff and his deputies in that town are known to be real arogant asses! Maybe everyone including Roush jump the gun a little here! you think?
Posted by: Robert | Dec 11, 2005 9:27:54 AM
LMFAO.... 6and9
Posted by: christina | Nov 17, 2005 4:06:53 PM
you friggin drunk.
Posted by: the6and9 | Nov 17, 2005 2:19:24 PM
Hank,
But how does that story give Jamie a reputation of a partier and a boozer? He's not the one who got hit, Jr was. From the story you gave all that was said about Jamie was that he helped Jr and another driver (most likely Sadler, those three are really good friends) throw a party. And really, the story doesn't even make Jr out to be a boozer - he was just flirting with some girl at the wrong place and time. Guys do that all the time, lol
I throw parties with my friends all the time... But just because one out of the three of us gets drunk and stupid doesn't make me a boozer!! :)
Posted by: Christina | Nov 17, 2005 9:46:59 AM
There was a story going around earlier this year. A magazine or tabloid had an article with pictures of a party at a hotel in FLA. JR, Jamie and another driver allegedly threw this bash. Dale was dealing on some other guys woman and this guy punched him in the eye. As the story goes, the party started to get crazy, Dale and Jamie got in a chopper and left. I do remember the SPEED channel guys mentioned a "magazine article" during a "Trackside" show back in Feb.. I remember Larry Mac did say something like "This sounds like boys just having a litlle fun". Dale did not comment on the article. Nothing more was said about it. This allegedly went on before Speedweek.
Posted by: Hank | Nov 16, 2005 3:59:04 PM
A bit off the subject, Kenny Wallace is awesome and can somebody tell me what happened with Dale Jr. and Jaime, and Jr. getting blasted in the eye? This new information about Kurt's blood alcohol level(.017) and 60 in a 45, crossing over a double yellow and running a stop sign, not too good. Come on that is not enough to warrent a suspension.Again, it's his mouth that was the iceing on the cake. It's a matter of who can be the biggest ass of all. The sheriff, Kurt or Jack? Kurt has gotten away with a lot with his cocky mouth and avoided any major trouble(Jimmy Spencer). Someone needs to put him in his place. Even to me this is a little extreme. If he had been legally drunk, and resisted arrest,then yes, boot his ass. Jack is getting back @ Kurt.This is unfortunate for Kur, but I hope that Kurt has learned that he is not all that and to just shut-up.
Posted by: kim | Nov 16, 2005 2:46:57 AM
I should have ended with Kenny Wallace in the 97 at Homestead not Todd Kluever. I hope Kenny runs good and can help his chances at a shot for a quality ride in the future. He seems like a genuinely nice guy even if his hyperactive personality gets old on NASCAR This Morning and NASCAR Victory Lane.
Posted by: Todd | Nov 16, 2005 1:17:32 AM
Why are so many quick to condemn Jack Roush for suspending Kurt Busch? My guess would be that your driver is getting outrun by Roush Racing drivers most weekends. Sponsors were consulted before the decision to suspend KB was made. The circumstances with RR signing Jamie MacMurray and Kurt Busch signing with Penske are not quite the same. JM was under contract to Chip Ganassi through '06 with an owner option for '07. Chip did not exercise the option for '07 until after he knew Jamie had signed on with RR. Why would an owner want a driver that did not want to be there? Totally within Chip’s rights but it makes me question his motives. Roush was betting Chip would not go for the option year. KB was under contract through '07. Drivers and owners sign contracts for the next season when the driver is still under contract all the time. Scott Riggs leaving MB2 for Everingham would be a perfect example. The difference is that this year's silly season (with Roush signing JM) started earlier than usual.
Todd Kluever not Kenny Wallace will be in the 97 at Homestead.
Posted by: Todd | Nov 16, 2005 1:05:55 AM
In reference to the comment of Jack Roush using the Kurt Busch police incident to get revenge for Busch leaving and going to Penske, it's not in Roush's character to do that. I think Jack acted because of the sponser and for no other reason. especially since Crown Royal promotes using you head and not driving when yo drink. Apart from that watch out for Kenny Wallace in the 97 this wekend.
Posted by: ktjm6 | Nov 16, 2005 12:09:29 AM
I still think Jimmy Spencer should have hit him harder and at least 4 or 5 times
Posted by: Larry | Nov 15, 2005 9:46:55 PM
I wanna see Kenny Wallace win this next race. After all, the 97 is still one of the top five or six cars and I think the crew deserves it.
Posted by: Buddynoel | Nov 15, 2005 6:37:46 PM
I read somewhere a few months ago that Kurt's souvenir's were selling for half price, maybe now they will pay us to take them LOL
OK Busch fans don't get your panties in a knot, just making funny
Posted by: DonB | Nov 15, 2005 6:00:21 PM
How many of you haven't done a 60 in a 45 zone? As it now shows the kurt wasn't even close to being drunk. All the sheriff wanted was publicity and all the ass in the hat wanted was some conveinient revenge. I am not saying KB is completely innocent, but he got way too much punishement than what he deserves.
Posted by: 48fan | Nov 15, 2005 5:56:38 PM
Sounds like one of the 7 - count 'em...7 - Kurt Busch Fan Club Members finally found their way onto the Inside Line! I thought ya'll had quit when he started chargin' monthly dues!
I'm just messin with ya...!
But, really - Kurt's had a suspension comin' for a while. He ain't the first. Won't be the last.
Posted by: the6and9 | Nov 15, 2005 3:56:41 PM
I think Kurt Bush is very cockey and yes I belive he got cockey with the the police department. He may think he is all that and Whipped cream too but he is not and it is about time someone proved that to him. I do not care for Roush and never did but I think what he did was the right thing to do.Someone has to show Kurt Bush his name is Kurt Bush not God and he has to live by the same rules in this world as every one else.
Posted by: Joan | Nov 15, 2005 3:50:32 PM
It sounds like everyone got to take shots and slams at Kurt's expense. 60 in a 45 zone and a .017. The sheriff was out for a pub grab. The "rumor" that a testing machine was broken-c'mon. Jack has showed the rest of the country what a piece of crap he is. He used every manipulation he could to make sure Kurt got maximum media punishment and embarrasment. He just better be careful. Doesn't McMurray have more of a reputation as a boozer and hell raiser? Wasn't he with Junior when Dale got blasted in the eye earlier this year?
Posted by: Hank | Nov 15, 2005 3:33:19 PM
Looks like everyone has said it all, good and bad about both Kurt and the Police.
I respect the police, but there are some bad apples everywhere. I have been stopped more than I care to admit, and everytime but once I was doing something wrong, and that was the only time I lost it and gave the cop hell, I asked just how stupid she thought I was speeding in a school zone when I could see her parked there, and My radar detector was going off. Beleive it or not, it was the only time I never got a ticket, and less than 6 months later she was fired, for mostly being an ass. but what they really got her for was lying.
Now as to Kurt, I don't like him, never will, but let's not hang him until all the facts are in.
Posted by: DonB | Nov 15, 2005 12:46:35 PM
Michael,
It's cool. Being the brother of a pair of state poiceman makes ME sensitive to the hazards of a traffic stop on the other side of the car door.
Posted by: BARman | Nov 15, 2005 10:50:52 AM
BARman,
We'll agree to disagree on politics. I've heard of the Sherrif's antics in the past and therefore I have a biased opinion of him. As far as Kurt goes, it sounds like the story has changed and his test result was a .017, which is well below .08. Sounds like the machine failure was an untrue story. I don't disagree that Kurt's a smart ass, however having been stopped by police before and given the shake down for no reason, I guess I feel for him a little bit.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 15, 2005 9:05:31 AM
Nathan - I agree with you. Field sobriety tests are based on Judgment of the Officer that has pulled you over unless there is a camera in the car. If I were Kurt, I wouldn't have taken it either. Way too many tests have been done on the inconsistances of field test.
Here's the answer to the field breathalyzer that you talked about.......
Yesterday (11/14) The sheriff of Maricopia County was on XM with Claire B Lang. He said they gave Kurt a breathalyzer test (the kind you blow into) and the result was .017 (needs a .08 to charge in AZ). No machine broke as has been reported in the press. Since Kurt was well under the legal limit, no additional testing was needed.
Posted by: Ann | Nov 15, 2005 8:17:57 AM
I agree with almost all of you. KB is an ass, and his mouth continues to get him in trouble. He has no respect for anyone. Maybe now he will learn to shut-up. I am SO NOT a fan of his. But I will say he's a great driver. I also don't like Jack. I realize that he has put up with A LOT from Kurt, but there is NO WAY he would have suspended him if he were in the top three in the Chase, nor would the sponsors, especially if he was coming back next year. I'm not saying he didn't deserve a strong punishment, but lets be realistic. Jack would have fought tooth and nail for any of his other drivers. I think there was definatly some revenge there. Also, where does Jack get off being pissed about Kurt leaving, when he did the same thing with Jaime FIRST. Finally, YES, alcohol was involved, even if Kurt was not legally drunk. One last thing, that Sheriff was an ass on TV. Looking for some national spotlight?
Posted by: kim | Nov 15, 2005 2:31:26 AM
Yes all of you have a good point, But KB steped over the line for the last time. In the contract he put his name to "I will be a good boy on and OFF THE TRACK"
Posted by: Chris | Nov 14, 2005 9:04:02 PM
From what the reports said, Bush refused the sobriety test. This is perfectly within his right to do. Sobriety tests are considered a "judgement call" IE: you have to rely on the officers judgement on if you were drunk or not. These are easily thrown out in court unless they get you on video.
He DID take a field breathalyzer which indicated some alcohol. These are not admissible in court BUT if it indicates alcohol the police then have a right/obligation to bring you in to administer a true breathalyzer.
From what it sounds like, his actions did not rise to the point of being taken in just because of reckless driving. Last I heard reckless driving was just a citation and you go on your way depending on how extreme the case is. This tells me that he was drinking, otherwise they would have never brought him in. Now this doesn't say he was drunk, but it does show the presence of alcohol because they had no other reason to bring him in. I know MANY MANY cases where someone has received a reckless driving ticket and they have driven away with a ticket in their hand. The only time I have seen any one arrested or brought in is if alcohol was involved (with the exception of a warrant, unlicensed driver, etc).
I don't think anyone will know if Jack made the decision or if he was "somewhat" pressured by the sponsors. I have heard in the past that Jacks contracts with the drivers are pretty fool proof. They have moral clauses in the contracts that require the drivers to act like adults. I can only imagine how Bush was acting toward the officers that night given how I have seen him acting out this year.
I bet we see quite a bit from Penski and Bush when it comes to apologizing to the community. Whether it be donations, projects, shows or benefits.
Posted by: nathan | Nov 14, 2005 8:45:19 PM
What all of you NOT from Arizona (Maricopa County) need to know is that Hollywood Joe Arpaio is crooked as HELL. Joe never leaves his palace to visit lawbreakers. He adorns the spotlight, and will take all necessary measures to make the headlines. I'm sure Penskes comment about "giving something back to the city" means GREASING JOES PALMS! Kurt may get the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Posted by: NascarKev | Nov 14, 2005 6:59:20 PM
Michael,
You won't hang on him the drunk title. I never said he was drunk, but for him to try to convince us it wasn't alcohol related means - A) he's lying, or B) he is naturally obnoxious toward authority - and I don't have to list the incidents, I trust you are aware of his record.
In two different posts you call the Sheriff's Dept on the carpet - okay, that's your opinion - but this isn't a political site, so we'll agree to disagree on the effectiveness of his style.
The part about the malfunction I threw in there for fun. NASCAR has a long history of influence and arm-twisting. Again, I trust you don't need me to recite a litany of it here.
Busch was stupid, and it cost him. Was there some Roush payback? Likely. Did Kurt give him the opportunity? Definitely.
Posted by: BARman | Nov 14, 2005 6:13:29 PM
What is the difference in year end money from 9th to 10th? Busch loses 191 points for not running Homestead. If it were me, I would call up the 60 or the 37 and see if I could drive Homestead. If he finishes within 5 or so positions of Mayfield (not hard these days) it could mean a couple hundred grand...
Posted by: John Biedebach | Nov 14, 2005 5:44:58 PM
well my heart is all broke. who cares why it was done. someone was bound to get it sooner or later. KB is a spoiled little punk who never paid any due's for the chance he got. might be I am old school but come on people he f--ked up and that's that. anyone else in the world we live in would have hell to pay so why not them. the problem with most of these young guns is no one takes responsibility for anything they do. I say good bye. think about it what if he would have killed your mother or sister. if you drink and drive then you are asking for it. so one way or another it will give him the chance to do the right thing and that would be think, learn and fly right.
hats off to jack for giving him the heave ho. now it's roger's turn to say sorry but we have decided to go another direction.
bad decisions - bad behavior - dad attitude
Posted by: speedracer | Nov 14, 2005 5:11:06 PM
BARman,
What the heck was that? All you did was copy and paste the same article that I've already read. What's your point?
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 4:20:17 PM
BAR - that's not the only source carrying that EXACT same account. In fact, I have yet to find one that says anything differently.
Not saying one doesn't exist.
By that account, it's hard to say he didn't get what he had coming to him.
Everybody was up in arms about Wimmer.
And God forbid there had been a car full of people, a child or any other pedestrian in the wrong place when he - 1) crossed the yellow line in the median...2) ran the stop sign...
There is no excuse for these kinds of things when other people's lives could be at stake.
And for Christ's sake - part of his job is telling the public about responsible drinking!
Two words - one begins with "F" and the second word is "him".
Posted by: the6and9 | Nov 14, 2005 3:59:46 PM
Michael, from that other site about NASCAR:
"As a result of the roadside investigation the deputy did take Mr. Busch into custody for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol," said Lt. Paul Chagolla, a Maricopa County sheriff's spokesman.
Chagolla said the deputy smelled alcohol on Busch, but the driver allegedly refused to perform standard field sobriety tests. Busch did submit to a field breath alcohol test, disclosing the presence of alcohol.
The deputy drove Busch to PIR, where a sheriff's facility is located, to administer another breath test but the machine there failed. The machine malfunctioned, which may have gotten the defending Nextel Cup champion off the hook on a driving under the influence charge.
What was it you were saying? And I'll debate you anytime. I'm not hard to find.
Posted by: BARman | Nov 14, 2005 3:26:10 PM
The roadside breath test is only used for probable cause (along with the field sobriety test) to have a suspected DUI/DWI be administered a breath analyzer exam. The roadside breath test is not admissable in court, the analyzer is. Breath analyzers can fail for a huge list of reasons (ambient temp in the testing room/device detecting something in the air/solutions out of tolerance, etc..).
I would like to see the video of the stop whenever it is released.
I'm probably biased after 26 years in law enforcement, but I'd bet on the word of the patrol deputy....
Posted by: steve | Nov 14, 2005 3:16:25 PM
Roush is still bitter that Busch is leaving his team. I can guarantee that Jack would not have done this if Kurt was planning on being with his team next year. Jack even said on Saturday that he didn't care what happened to Kurt because Kurt no longer worked for him. Bitter, bitter, bitter.
Posted by: Alex | Nov 14, 2005 3:05:28 PM
BARman,
spare me the bs. I never once condoned any of Kurt's actions. However, I'm not so quick to hang him on the fact that he was drunk as so many of the people in the media and on this post have. I thought there was something strange about the Sheriff's comments on TV and I did a little investigating. Turns out, there is more to the story.
As far as jail goes, please find me someone who has been in jail and thinks it's a nice place to hang out. The guy is a publicty whore and has been for a long time. His efforts have not saved the tax payers any money. If you'd like to get into a political debate, I'd love to, but I'm sure the rest on the post wouldn't.
Lastly, i think it's helarious that you would even think that Nascar somehow had anything to do with the machine failing at the JAIL at the track. As often as they have hung other drivers out to dry, and their treatment of Busch in the past, what reason would Nascar have to defend him?
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 3:04:40 PM
I think Jack just took Kurt out because of the decision Kurt made to leave his team.
Whatever happen to innocent to proven guilty? Look at all the fans that support Miller Lite and Budweiser! You know the cops could pull drivers over left & right after all the races! This is a little two faced if you want to ask me!
Posted by: gordangal1 | Nov 14, 2005 2:51:46 PM
Michael, if we had more Sheriffs like Joe Arpaio, we would have less crime.
Jail shouldn't be a nice time, someplace to go between court appearances. It should be a deterrent to the aberrant segment of society that holds you and yours in little regard.
Youm would Judge Sheriff Joe, but not Kurt Busch. At least be consistent.
I wonder about that "malfunction" they had, and I wonder if NASCAR didn't have $$$omething to do with it not working.
(yeah, that's me judging NASCAR - so what?)
Posted by: BARman | Nov 14, 2005 2:39:51 PM
48fan,
Yep I do believe there were 2 sets of prints on that there knife...seems that Roush just got to twist it a bit.
Posted by: Keith | Nov 14, 2005 2:06:30 PM
>>>I think Jack Roush has earned the right to do whatever he wants, and I was a Kurt Busch fan. Roush brought him from a backyard unknown racer to a championship and had to put up with a lot of BS along the way. What does he get in return, a knife in the back.
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I'm sorry didn't ass in the hat use the same knife to stab Chip Gannassi Racing?
Posted by: 48fan | Nov 14, 2005 1:35:14 PM
I am not a Kurt Busch fan, but, Jack Rausch
just found a way to pay Kurt back for
signing with another team. Remember,
Jack Rausch, you started the whole thing
by going to Jamie McMurray's team and
signing him to drive for you. What goes
around, comes around, and you got a taste
of your own medicine. I have never liked
Kurt Busch and he got what he deserved but
Jack Rausch got what he deserved also.
Kurt Busch's attitude is no worse then
Jack Rausch's.
Posted by: Ellen | Nov 14, 2005 1:31:24 PM
Oh, and a little about the Sheriff in the town might make you change your mind. Read on:
"Publicity-hungry Joe Arpaio is proud to be called "America's Toughest Sheriff." Elected in 1992, Arpaio oversees the jail in Maricopa County, Arizona. In 1993 Sheriff Joe created Tent City Jail, an immense outdoor facility housing 2,000 inmates near Phoenix. Worked them in chain gangs (both men and women). Dressed them all in striped uniforms and pink underwear."
There is also a major push to have him recalled as sheriff because of vast corrupiton and millions of dollars in lawsuits filed against his department for exessive force and violation of civil liberties.
I don't think we are getting all of the story.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 1:28:22 PM
I've read so many opinions here that have Kurt guilty already.
This is still the good ol USA people. I fought in Nam so that we still have the right to be innocent until proven guilty.
I doubt any of you were there and know the actual facts of the case.
You allow your hatred(?) to cloud your judgement. Back off and let cooler heads prevail.
There has always been good natured rivalry in this sport. But when did that change to fan hatred? You can't root your driver on without hating another driver/team/owner or his fans?
All ya'll need to grow up! Life's just too short to be hating like this.
Posted by: Sir Pippen | Nov 14, 2005 1:10:07 PM
A Young,
All reports indicate that Kurt took a breathalizer test during the traffic stop. He refused to do any field sobriety tests. From what I heard from callers on Wind Tunnel if have been pulled over in the same jurisdiction, that police department has a history of being hardasses on people in town for the race weekend. While I don't doubt Kurt made an ass of himself, after hearing the interview with the Sheriff, he and his department made it a personal issue. I personally recommend everyone buy a tape recorder and have it out when ever you are pulled over. You will be treated much differently and won't have to worry about allegations.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 12:53:19 PM
ok. I was wrong. Nobody put CE in the fence.
Dang.
Posted by: the6and9 | Nov 14, 2005 12:46:05 PM
I don't know. I wasn't there. I have yet to read the police report or to hear Kurt Busch's side of the story. I know what it is like to be a scapegoat and to be lied about, and to suffer serious loss as a result. It is a horrible, helpless feeling to read lies about yourself in the paper, and to read other people's ignorant reactions. As a result, I am less inclined to sound off like a braying jackass about what I read in the papers when I don't know all the facts. As for people not "liking" Kurt Busch, So?? If each of us could remove the driver we liked least, would there be anybody left but Mark Martin and Kyle Petty? Well?
Posted by: Tombstone | Nov 14, 2005 12:34:27 PM
Something fishy about this whole breathalizer thing.
Was Busch tested at roadside or not?
Also, even if a breathalizer at the sheriff's station "malfunctioned," certainly a metro area like
Phoenix has more than one at its disposal. Sounds to me like someone at the sheriff's station was intimitated or, perhaps, starstruck by the presence of Mr. Busch.
Hopefully, some enterprising reporter is looking into this.
Posted by: a young | Nov 14, 2005 12:25:23 PM
Just wondering about the status of Kurt's P.R.coach. Busch has been working overtime this past year to be polished during on camera moments(Speed TV appearances as guest commentator, pre-race interviews,etc.).
I guess Kurt left camp without his minders Friday evening. If Kurt had not had a drop of alcohol, does anyone really believe he would have been more civil with authority figures?
Only if he had a hired hand along to keep him in line. Given time, defects in personality will eventually be revealed during moments of stress. It ought to be fun watching Penske's next move. Heck, the ink has barely dried on that contract. Smart money would be on Busch looking for seat time elsewhere next season. That or Ryan Newman clocking Busch if he gets out of line. I'd really like to see him get his a** whipped just for drill.
Posted by: Bill | Nov 14, 2005 12:22:55 PM
He did take a breathalizer test at the scene. He refused to do the field sobriety tests...the walk the line, say our abc's tests. My guess is, he passed the breathalizer and thought he was above doing the other tests...so they ran him in.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 12:05:30 PM
I thought Busch refused the breathalizer when he got pulled over and that's why they took him in... But that's just what I read, I wasn't there to see anything... :) Even though I would have loooooved to see that idiot pulled over on the side of the road taking a breathalizer... :)
Posted by: Christina | Nov 14, 2005 11:57:01 AM
Again, there's a point that everyone is missing. Kurt took a breathalizer test!!! If he had failed he would have been sent straight to jail. Clearly, he must have passed the test. They then took him for another test because he pissed them off and they wanted to stick it to him. Cops, being typical cops. I don't think that's preferenital treatment.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 14, 2005 11:53:24 AM
USA today had a great article on the debacle. IF I swerved around a car (just because it was slower than me), ran a stop sign, refused to complete a field sobriety test, and then became belligerent with an officer, I feel that I may have been taken to jail. He received preferential treatment, no doubt. That's what ticks me off!
Because of his behavior history and the sponsers he drives for, I think Roush was right to suspend him.
I respect Kyle for taking up for his brother but he needs to be careful blasting sponsers. He burned some bridges and after this last silly season, that may not be very smart.
Posted by: KS 24-48 | Nov 14, 2005 11:42:43 AM
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