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July 07, 2007
Busch wins his first Daytona race
Kyle Busch held off Kevin Harvick to win his first Daytona race and his first Busch race this season.
Harvick came from the back many times to run in second, but could never get any help to get by Busch. He has the chance on the last restart and I think if Blaney had gone with Harvick, they could have gotten by him, but Blaney didn't seem to want to help.
Harvick finished second, followed by Blaney, Stewart and Bowyer rounded out the top five. Leffler was the highest finisher of the Busch regulars, coming in ninth.
The big one never happened thanks to spotters being on their toes, not that the opportunity wasn't there for the big one, it was just able to be avoided, hopefully the same thing will happen in the Cup race tonight.
Your thoughts?
July 7, 2007 in NASCAR, NASCAR Busch Series | Permalink
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marc,
I meant without insulting me, my god you just can't stop can you. I am sure you could have figured it out for yourself. I only respond in kind to your insults, so when you decide to stop let me know. I guess you are so used to insulting peoples intelligence, that you just can't help yourself.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 12, 2007 7:07:05 AM
Jon:
"You can't say anything with insulting me can you..."
What the hell does "with insulting me" mean?
You did a far better job of insulting yourself with that, you don't need me to do it.
And BTW... who was it that called who a "child" or childish" first?
Mr. Jon "Pot" meet Mr. Kettle.
Posted by: marc | Jul 11, 2007 9:06:58 PM
marc,
You can't say anything with insulting me can you, I am through talking to you. If you decide to stop insulting me when you post your comments I might discuss things with you, but until then I am done.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 11, 2007 7:23:37 PM
Jon:
"Wow, I hope you aren't waiting for a attaboy marc. You seem to do a good job of it, so no one needs to."
Considering your attachment to reality is somewhat lacking on occasion one coming from you would be meaningless.
However, and regardless, no one should get an "atta boy" for pointing out someone who believes a driver/CC is guilty before the "jury" has issued a ruling.
Not to mention either ignoring or being ignorant of NASCAR's penalty process.
Posted by: marc | Jul 10, 2007 10:02:49 PM
Wow, I hope you aren't waiting for a attaboy marc. You seem to do a good job of it, so no one needs to.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 10, 2007 6:41:47 AM
NASCAR made a statement today that Kyle
Busch's car was legal which most of you
fans know by now.
Posted by: Angel 2 | Jul 10, 2007 2:26:18 AM
stricklinfan82:
So... tell me guy who was doing the "bashing?' Was it you that pronounced someone guily before the inspection process was complete.
Or was it I that pointed out the process wasn't complete?
NASCAR has determined the springs it confiscated from the No. 5 Busch Series Chevrolet of Kyle Busch after last Saturday's race at Daytona International Speedway are legal.
NASCAR spokeswoman Tracey Judd said Monday the front springs taken from the car Busch drove in the Winn Dixie 250 for being "slightly under" the minimum allowed by rule were remeasured at the research and development center in Concord, N.C., and found to be within the allowable tolerance.
"That ends post-race inspection," Judd said.
Posted by: marc | Jul 10, 2007 1:37:13 AM
Congratulations to Kyle Busch on his win
Saturday and for coming in 2nd. Saturday
night. If Dale Jr. wants a fresh, new start
with HMS then he should drive the #5 with
a new sponsor and a new crew chief. Let
his nephew, Jeffrey Earnhardt drive the
#8 for DEI when he is ready. Kyle Busch has
a very good crew chief and maybe that's
what Dale Jr. needs everything new.
Posted by: Race Fan | Jul 8, 2007 10:57:13 PM
Hey Kathy!
Sure would be nice to gather comments about the changes we saw in the Cup race. I'm not sure how it works out with your schedule, but this race had many great points.
1. A broadcaster actually came up with something new that could help racing. TNT was very unpolished and needs to work on cues, but I liked the new coverage. Now if the local cable outlets could offer cutaway breaks, we might accidently see a whole race.
2. Hendrick drivers are still great drivers, even when their crew chiefs are not allowed to cheat. But the restrictor plate racing showed that Roush-Fenway is not far behind them and may have a better stable of drivers.
3. Kyle Petty is getting funnier each week (in a Larry the Cable Guy-way). Did he actually mean to call the #22 a "Cat Toy," or did that gem just drop out of his mouth?
4. Shrub may get weeded out before the end of his contract. I still say, let Jarrett take his old 88 UPS to DEI for the Bud 8 to Hendrick and the Kelloggs 5 to Yates.
There, now I can get back to work.
Posted by: buddynoel | Jul 8, 2007 9:10:22 AM
B-man,
You are right, it takes away the deterrent factor when Hendrick knows the win and trophy will not be taken away no matter what they do.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 8, 2007 8:45:20 AM
Marc,
The reason I said Gustafson wouldn't be penalized is because that's what the NASCAR spokesperson in the article said, since he wasn't the listed crew chief, no contortions there. :)
Posted by: Kathy | Jul 8, 2007 7:58:45 AM
Another Hendrick questionable victory.
Gee, color me shocked, NOT!
The shame of it is that for the most part, the Hendrick 'stable' of drivers really don't need the rules bending, and yet they do it anyway, apparently.
The sad thing is that even if the spring or springs are deemed illegal, NASCAR will never take a trophy.
Points, fines, and toothless suspensions and (double secret)probations are all a team need expect from the governing body.
Posted by: B-Man | Jul 8, 2007 7:39:27 AM
stricklinfan82:
"At the time of my post the only report on the subject said he was "illegal" (yes that's a quote) and I assumed it was true."
Are we to believe you are so misinformed about NASCAR's procedures with regards to how "illegal" parts are handled?
Are we to believe you have NEVER seen a final determination on "illegal" parts or other infractions that WASN'T finalized after inspection on Monday and Tuesday of the following week and penalties finalized and handed out on Tuesday, at the earliest?
Is that what your saying? If so I'd suggest you study just how it's done. I'd also suggest you look at the penalty section of jayski and research how many "illegal" things were found legal after the case was reviewed by the folks at R&D and the Competition Committee.
If that isn't the case I'd say you pronounced the #5 guilty before it was found he was actually guilty.
Posted by: marc | Jul 8, 2007 4:03:38 AM
marc,
At the time of my post the only report on the subject said he was "illegal" (yes that's a quote) and I assumed it was true. There was nothing about a pending R&D Center investigation mentioned at that time. I'm all for due-process and if the springs are deemed legal after the investigation then more power to him.
Does it make you feel smart to bash people after some of the facts have changed since they made the statement you are quoting?
When you're done reading this you're probably gonna look through other old blogs to find someone that made a post in March saying "Junior will end up re-signing with DEI" so you can quote them and then bash them now that information has come out that he's moving to Hendrick. Then again you've probably already done that.
Posted by: stricklinfan82 | Jul 8, 2007 12:35:20 AM
Marc,
I am done discussing things with you. You know what you say and I don't need to copy and paste quotes to prove my point.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 11:40:49 PM
Jon:
"Nothing you say makes sense, you just make up things as you go."
Jon again:
"It wouldn't be so bad if didn't come to kathy's blog just to tell people they are wrong and you know this because you read it somewhere or it is your opinions."
What have I "made up?" Again your long on accusations but short of quotes to back them up.
Posted by: marc | Jul 7, 2007 11:05:27 PM
Marc,
It wouldn't be so bad if didn't come to kathy's blog just to tell people they are wrong and you know this because you read it somewhere or it is your opinions. Your last post you attacked post after post for no reason at all. Just because you don't agree with what someone says doesn't mean you have to come here and tell everyone that they are wrong. We are entitled to our opinions and we don't need you coming here telling us we are wrong.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 9:57:24 PM
Marc,
Nothing you say makes sense, you just make up things as you go.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 9:49:54 PM
stricklinfan82: "It's a shame that yet another illegal car gets to keep a victory."
And you know this how? Have you paid off the judges so you get the outcome you desire? To hell with the process conducted at the R&D center right?
Kathy: "The kicker of that whole thing is that Gustafson, even though he was calling the race, is not the listed crew chief, hence he won't get the penalty. Another way of circumventing things when you're on probation."
It's amazing the mental contortions one has to make to arrive at that conclusion.
Can you cite a single case where NASCAR didn't penalize a CC because he was an "interim CC" during a race were his car was deemed illegal?
Assuming the car was illegal of course.
Thomas: "Am I reading that right? His car exceeded the upper end but they are quoting the low end of the rules?"
It would help if your quote was right:
"NASCAR has a 3,000 pound total spring rate on the right and left front springs, and they must not be less than 3,000 pounds. The left front must not be more than 800 pounds and the right front spring must not be less than 1,500."
"The individual left and right springs on the winning No. 5 Chevrolet exceeded the minimums, but the total was slightly under 3,000 pounds."
Make sense now?
Posted by: marc | Jul 7, 2007 8:21:47 PM
I wonder what new rule will be made cause of this CC deal.
Anyone seen or heard from K2? Maybe I missed his posts, but don't think I did.
Posted by: Tony | Jul 7, 2007 6:39:12 PM
This will get intreasting
Posted by: Tony | Jul 7, 2007 6:35:22 PM
Yes Thomas, Gustafson is on probation for last week with the car being too low in the Cup series, but he wasn't listed as the crew chief for the car. Hence, if any penalties come down, it'll be the other guy even though Gustafson was calling the shots.
As far as exactly what was wrong with the car? Who knows, other than it has to do with the springs.
Posted by: Kathy | Jul 7, 2007 6:26:41 PM
thomas:
Yes you are reading that right and no it doesn't make sense. I haven't been able to find anything else that says what that is supposed to mean. Anybody else know whats going on with Kyle and his CC?
Posted by: Marcy | Jul 7, 2007 6:09:31 PM
Ga! What the heck was the point of cheating? Isn't the 5 on probation already or is it just his crew chief? How could they possibly think they would not get caught with bad springs? The Jayski blurb did not make much sense to me:
"NASCAR rules require the left-front spring rate to be no less than 800 pounds, and the right-front no less than 1500 pounds. The car exceeded both of those spring rates but was within the 3,000-pound total spring rate"
Am I reading that right? His car exceeded the upper end but they are quoting the low end of the rules?
Posted by: thomas | Jul 7, 2007 5:29:28 PM
Yes Jon, that's true, BUT you have to realize Jr. CHOSE Hendrick Motorsports over all the others, now he'll have to deal with it.
Posted by: Kathy | Jul 7, 2007 4:58:01 PM
Kathy,
Just shows that none of the penalties are having any impact on the Hendrick organization and I feel sorry for Dale Jr. that he is going to be part of this same organization next season.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 4:56:27 PM
The kicker of that whole thing is that Gustafson, even though he was calling the race, is not the listed crew chief, hence he won't get the penalty. Another way of circumventing things when you're on probation.
Posted by: Kathy | Jul 7, 2007 4:51:45 PM
Ummmm Why do I NOT find this hard to beleive?
#5 Fails Post Race Inspection: The springs for the race-winning Winn-Dixie 250 #5 Chevy of Kyle Busch failed postrace inspection Saturday afternoon at Daytona International Speedway. Any penalties will be announced next week. NASCAR has taken the front springs from the car, NASCAR spokeswoman Tracy Judd said. NASCAR rules require the left-front spring rate to be no less than 800 pounds, and the right-front no less than 1500 pounds. The car exceeded both of those spring rates but was within the 3,000-pound total spring rate, Judd said.(SceneDaily.com)(7-7-2007)
Posted by: Fan #5 | Jul 7, 2007 4:45:50 PM
Guess what, Kyle Busch's car failed post-race inspection (according to Jayski)! Based on NASCAR's precedence they're going to get a fine and perhaps lose 25 or 50 points (which I'm sure will hurt greatly for a team and driver running a limited schedule).
Yet another case of a team apparently cheating to win a race, knowing that they're only going to get a slap on the wrist and still get to keep the trophy.
As I mentioned in response to Kathy's last blog about penalties, NASCAR needs to start disqualifying teams for cheating, but to Kathy's credit she was exactly right when she said NASCAR will never do that.
It's a shame that yet another illegal car gets to keep a victory.
Posted by: stricklinfan82 | Jul 7, 2007 4:33:18 PM
Mike,
I know you weren't slamming Busch, but I just didn't get the impression that the drivers thought the track was all that bad.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 4:01:59 PM
Jon, that wasn't a shot at Busch, it was a general observation about how handling has supplanted the effectiveness of the draft at Daytona.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Jul 7, 2007 3:34:35 PM
Anybody but a Busch............
Posted by: Tony | Jul 7, 2007 2:35:11 PM
Mike,
Interesting observation, but I will wait until I hear it from a driver before I will believe that it was the tracks fault that Baby Busch was class of the field.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 1:16:46 PM
This was a comparatively uncompetitive affair. Kyle Busch was home free in the lead because everyone else behind him was for the most part so tight they couldn't get enough run to pass.
They need to repave Daytona, and do so now, because the surface has become unraceable - no grip, not enough secure footing for the cars to race; all they were doing today was trying to hold what they had.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Jul 7, 2007 1:05:23 PM
Congrats to Baby Busch for the win and yes he got lucky that Blaney sat back waiting for Harvick pull out and make a move on Busch so he could move up to second. Seems Toyota isn't going to win anything with a driver like Blaney.
Posted by: Jon | Jul 7, 2007 11:42:23 AM
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