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October 23, 2007
Green gone, Mayfield in - smart move?
OK, admittedly, I'm not a fan of either one of these drivers and it's their choice as to who they want to drive the car, but Mayfield? Green has kept the car in the top 35 (31st in owner points as of now), which guarantees them in the race, so why the immediate switch? Do they really think Mayfield is going to get them higher? I don't, in fact there is a possibility that they could drop out of the top 35 by the end of the season. I think their problem is more equipment and driver, not just driver and they seem to want to pin it all on Green. I guess we'll see by the end of the season if they can stay in the top 35 or not.
With Mayfield out of the 36, there will be two drivers "filling in", Mike Skinner will drive Atlanta and Texas and Benson will drive Phoenix and Homestead, I think they'll have a better chance of making the races with them. As far as what will happen next year is up in the air as it seems like Davis is selling the team.
Your thoughts?
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Jeff, 10-4 on your Grandma winning at DEI.
DEI definitely had that aspect of racing monopolized for a while.
Posted by: Jon2 | Oct 25, 2007 1:36:03 PM
Red, aggie, Gretchen, Fan#5 ... too many to name ... damn y'all made me laugh so hard this morning...
JM will never be more than a mediocre driver. So he made two chases. Phffft!
Riggs isn't cutting the mustard, and IMO, Green is the Official Speed Bump of NASCAR.
(Oh wait, second only to MW there.)
Keep rockin' this blog, folks! Great readin.
Posted by: Doris | Oct 25, 2007 10:20:30 AM
I'll be the 1st one to admit that Jeremy's departure from EMS wasn't exactly handled well by any of the parties involved. That being said, can anyone direct me to a single news article containing an actual quote from Jeremy regarding the Evernham/Crocker situation?
Anyways, we all have our opinions regarding Haas's decision to replace Jeff Green with Jeremy Mayfield. Personally, I think the bigger question is "why replace Johnny Sauter with Scott Riggs?"
Posted by: Aunt V | Oct 24, 2007 7:04:26 PM
Mayfield and Green are both very talented drivers. Given the right oppurtunities, they good do as well as anyone in the series. Mayfield with Evernham was not a fair shot. That was a start up team. You put Mayfield in gordons car and watch him win. All drivers are really good, thats why they are there. I remember growing up and watching these guys race at KMS in Owensboro, they have the talent, just not an oppurtunity to capitalize on.
Posted by: Owensboro KY driver fan | Oct 24, 2007 7:00:36 PM
when did teresa earnhardt start sleeping with paul menard?
Posted by: Kevin | Oct 24, 2007 6:54:24 PM
IF Jeremy Mayfield sucks, why did he made the chase TWICE? Most drivers failed to make it once. A certain Jr. has only made it twice too, and he no longer wins either ;)
Posted by: john | Oct 24, 2007 5:40:12 PM
JM sucked when Cale hired him. Do you think thats why Cales team never amounted to anything and closed?
Posted by: hillbilly | Oct 24, 2007 5:15:44 PM
Jon2, Back when DEI was winning all those plate races, my grandma could have won in those cars. Holding the pedal to the floor and passing cars in superior cars isn't that difficult.
Posted by: jeff | Oct 24, 2007 5:01:54 PM
Is there really a point to discussing this? Haas has no sponsors lined up for next year. The cars have run house sponsorship the last few races with Best Buy and Yellow stickers on the quarter panels. Gene Haas, owner and sole financier, heads to jail for at least two years starting Nov. 5. Watch for someone to buy that nice new shop at a fire sale price next year when the trustees give everyone the kiss good-bye. It'll be
Bobby Ginn agin.
Posted by: loose.inc | Oct 24, 2007 4:06:05 PM
It was a mistake. Green has been a front runner in almost every COT race (Top 10 to 15) and Mayfield is just plain struggling or trying too hard to make it work.
It has to be political or the "Who you know" factor that motivated this, because it sure was not performance related decisions that made this happen.
-Bruce
Posted by: Brusimm | Oct 24, 2007 3:58:50 PM
Hey, Mayfield has won races and made the chase twice... Green once drove for RCR and DEI and is winless. I like Green and all, but Jeremy has the experience of success at some level. He is not going to win the cup or anything, but he has been near the top before. Green cannot say that.
Good move I think.
Posted by: Clint | Oct 24, 2007 1:32:58 PM
I wouldn’t touch Jeremy with a ten foot pole to drive for me. Loyalty is not a strong point with him at all. Not only did he dump his wife who adored him for Shana, but he hasn’t hesitated to trash car owners who gave him a change to succeed.. Where does Jeremy get off trying to destroy Evernham’s reputation after he dumped Christina … I agree, Jeremy’s 15 minutes of fame are history … Hell, I’d call Craven before I’d take Mayfield !!
Posted by: Salty Paws | Oct 24, 2007 1:07:48 PM
I am a fan of Jeff Green's and always have been since he's been in the nascar series along with the busch series. In my personal opnion, I dont think that they did him right considering He was doing pretty good with not having to race his way with him being in the top 35. Jeff just needs to get with a good team and then go from there. I've even met the guy in person!
Posted by: Heather | Oct 24, 2007 12:43:22 PM
is there anyone from owensboro, ky who DOESN'T drive a racecar?
perhaps the problem is that they need to start looking in other towns for drivers because i think owensboro is about tapped out.
why not give a guy like jason keller a shot? he's in a part time busch ride so schedule conflicts would be at a minimum and he's never really been given a cup shot.
jason keller was, and is in my opinion, the best "unsigned" talent in the busch series...i mean david stremme can get a job and run like crap everywhere he goes and keller who's won races and contended for the busch championship 5 years in a row can't get a freakin' shot?
it chaps my @ss to see guys like keller sitting at home on sunday when guys like sorensen, mcmurray, stremme, and sauter continuously get opportunity after opportunity.
Posted by: cinlach | Oct 24, 2007 12:39:58 PM
At least when DEI had Mikey for the several years he was with them, for a time it was almost a foregone conclusion that either Mikey or Junior was gonna win the restrictor races.
They definitely were a force to reckon with.
Posted by: Jon2 | Oct 24, 2007 12:11:16 PM
It's simple:
Green's career: 5 top 5's, 16 top 10's, 0 wins, 0 Chase appearances.
Mayfield: 48 Top 5's, 96 top 10's, 5 wins, 2 chase appearances.
= lead lap finishes, cars in one piece, and sponsorship exposure.
mmm kay, bye
Posted by: Phill | Oct 24, 2007 12:08:59 PM
HEY MORONS.......WANNA KNOW THE BEST MOMENT IN NASCAR HISTORY?.......MAYFILED MOVING THE 3 OUT OF THE WAY IN TURN 3 OF LAST LAP AT POCONO AND OLD MAN DALE WAS SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!! THINK JEFF GREEN WOULDVE MOVED THE 3?......PLEASEEEEEE..........OH BY THE WAY....HOW MANY CHASES HAS JEFF GREEN QUALIFIED FOR? HINT......NONE......MAYFIELD HAS 2. NOW WHO'S THE BETTER CHOICE?
Posted by: RUSTY | Oct 24, 2007 10:59:22 AM
Enation a female in cup??
DP
well the way its going right and drivers showing up with a sponser in thier back pocket id say if any one female is coming over DP has a lil head start on the rest
why for some reason EC wasn't allowed to even qualify for dega who knows.
Posted by: aggie | Oct 24, 2007 10:50:02 AM
Enation a female in cup??
well the way its going right and drivers showing up with a sponser in her back pocket id say if any one female is coming over she has a lil head start on the rest
why for some reason EC wasn't allowed to even qualify for dega who knows.
Posted by: aggie | Oct 24, 2007 10:43:12 AM
I didn't think that many people in trailers had computers, but wow. Why all the hate for Jeremy Mayfield? If Theresa Earnhardt was sleeping with Paul Mernard and Dale Jr. was getting ignored, I think people will feel a little differently about the situation that happened at Evernham.
These people who get all their NASCAR knowledge for NASCAR NOW don't really know all the facts.
Mayfield is a good driver and a nice guy and let's hope he proves all these yahoos wrong.
Posted by: Bill | Oct 24, 2007 10:12:45 AM
Kurt2, wasn't ignorin ya,was just sleepin'..your probably right about mikey doing better if he would just run the team,but being a junior and mikey fan I hope he races another few years..there's plenty of veterans that should call it quits..especially the part timers..atleast mikey is tryin to run the schedule full time..apparently not an easy job with a new manufacturer..no one else has ever come in and gotten the job done with a new manufacturer and survived with 3 teams...atleast give em credit for that..
Posted by: earnhardt nation | Oct 24, 2007 10:00:22 AM
Really none of the extraneous bs matters here. The point is simply that JM is WAY too much of a liability to me if I am a car owner. Because it is a given that he WILL get pi$$ed off at me because of descisions I make with MY company, MY motors, MY chassis, MY cars, MY drivers, MY race teams. And WHEN he does got pi$$ed off, he WILL go "live" on national ( if international) TV and blow from his pie hole each and every thing he knows about MY personal life, i.e. who I'm banging, who's wetting my whistle, who gets prefered treatment from me, etc....If I were an owner I would be horrified to employ the f****r.
Posted by: Gretchen | Oct 24, 2007 9:25:28 AM
Ah, God...gotta stop laughing over all these great posts long enough to get my 1 cent in :) (ain't even worth 2! LOL) Have to say it's a weird one any way you look at it--I go along with just about everyone here on Mayfield; talent-wise, it's debatable, but as far as being a teammate or team member or whatever you want to call it, what a disaster. But, maybe the guy's learned the hard way this past year, who knows. Can't really figure why any owner would put either Green or Mayfield in a car, myself--and you can add John Andretti to that group, also, no matter what his last name is.
Posted by: SneakyPete | Oct 24, 2007 8:30:09 AM
looks like i lost a post to that verification thingy...
Johnny suater is a proven demolition derby driver.. although he has been slacking thi years going fro 3 wrecks a race to 1. so he is either maturing or people take him out before he can collect them
one of those two stated the year outside of the top 35 in points and as with nemecheck, marlin its pretty crappy to reward a driver who secures you in the top 35 from nothing by handing him a pink slip
haas seems to think he has a top 20 car and handing the reigns to someone who ha twice made the chase will get him to that level.
I remmeber when drivers got canned for making teams worse now they get canned or improving race teams.
Mayfield got a shitty deal at evernham and was was left out in the cold... sure mayfield spoke out of turn but if he had said what he said without mentioning crocker nobody would of said a damn thing.
Mayfield and his team were getting stomped on by the other dodge teams and evernham was nowhere to be found. up to this point evernham had been a a very hands on owner but "fixed " the 9 team by destroying the 19 Mayfield wasnt even told he wouldnt be racing showed up to work and someone else was in his... vry bad business for both of them
Posted by: Kevin | Oct 24, 2007 8:28:16 AM
jm as good as anyone look at #8 e jr he aint shit who he gone blame next year stepmom put a curse on me as not running except on big tracks. jm can drive as good as 9 or 19 just at stats. just as ray was screwing his daughter ops might as well be tho so he aint shit aS HIS CARS OR HE WOUNT SELL THEM OFF sadler is a ticking boom he will be gone next year would be now no one will hire him as he tried to go to (MW 00 team) as they wount hire him
Posted by: joe | Oct 24, 2007 7:34:00 AM
Hell, when DJ kept clutching the motors...I wanted to tell Ty...Oh ME!, OH OH ME! it's been several years...and the last time out I was sadly dissappointed...I guess I turned into "Owner"...scratch THAT...Crew Chief LOL
With ALL the valuable talent available, I don't know why MWR isn't fortifying it's org?!...K2 DR got HOSED! HEY your org oughta pick him up?!!
Posted by: Fan #5 | Oct 24, 2007 7:32:47 AM
kurt2 if u so dam good why u not running u still sitting here talking shit so u must not be shit or u day dreaming.
Posted by: joe | Oct 24, 2007 7:09:16 AM
Ok well you arent going to anwser me, So here is you anwser.
Yes, I have no doubt I could.I have raced prior with him(in a different setting) and yes i do have 2 offers to run a CTS or Busch race this year.
Sorry, I will say this point blank, I am not a ego maniac at all. Just being honest.
JM and MW.I will give you the fact MW had a better career. But he would be beter running MWR than drivng
Posted by: Kurt2 | Oct 24, 2007 1:40:03 AM
No E Nation
if you are serious I will glady anwser your ?
I am not being a ass at all.
If you want the truth please let me know
Posted by: Kurt2 | Oct 24, 2007 1:19:29 AM
Ok..here's a question for ya'll....who will be the next female to drive in the nextel cup races? And no,jeremy mayfield don't count..
Posted by: earnhardt nation | Oct 24, 2007 12:42:53 AM
Kurt2.....As usual,I won't put your theory to any test...just like junior this year,I've lost enough...:]
Posted by: earnhardt nation | Oct 24, 2007 12:34:14 AM
E Nation:
Can you handle the truth on that >?
Posted by: Kurt2 | Oct 24, 2007 12:25:29 AM
Keep hating mikey waltrip....kurt2, you formidable information tree that you are..but ya gotta give the man a little credit don't ya? I'm curious..do you think you could do better with what he has? ..
Posted by: earnhardt nation | Oct 23, 2007 11:58:18 PM
I knew the Love MW and JM post would come.WOW
Hell I can guarntee Harry Gant,could come back in ATL. and spank them both.
Last week I swear the 1 took over the lead for the year for cautions in one race. AS he created most of them
MW- Was at one time@ DEI
JM- Was shot his damn self with his stupidity.Now moves into lets toss my self around and pray someone hires me, since Cup screw the Busch Series
Hell Fan5 -Warren W has him hands down now at Dega
Chad L- never was
Posted by: Kurt2 | Oct 23, 2007 11:46:45 PM
Mayfield couldn't get along with Crusty but neither could Newman. Sadler is lucky to stay in the top 35 and Mayfield made the Chase twice. Jeremy has some issues but who doesn't. He can still wheel a racecar when he wants too. Sure gonna miss that guaranteed caution everyweek courtesy of Green. Hope Mikey can keep making races. We need the one caution per week.
Posted by: jeff | Oct 23, 2007 11:38:28 PM
Fan5
No buddy praticed today, then did some work today with Victory juntion later.
No I am here and reading. cant believe that anyone is actaully stating the "waste" was right and it was RE's fault.
I can say that for many reasons.
1- Penske, Yeah Jeremy it wasnt your fault
2- R.E DIDNT state that to anyone one "JM wrecking the car on purpose, that was JM's crew chief.
If I am wrong FAN5,(dont name names) but are you aware of drivers that ever "intentionally " "wrecked the car since they were so pissed.Oh I know I can.JM did
By that time he had the MWR deal done and said F-it. he didnt give 2 shits.He is a little vindicative "certain orfice" (see can be PG).
Ironman, glad to see you back. And yes we can agree to disagree in a whole new llight now and thats cool.
Erin ahd nothing to do with the things that went down with the moron(tht would be JM).
Keith12:
This is a sport, whom said it needed or ahd to be based on "moralitity"? Never had been , nor will be
I assume you know what happened between Ray and his wife?
No if you think this is a Morality based sport , sory my friend its not. There is wuite a TON of IMMORALITY in the garage.
Next subject:
CE said he was sorry and it was his fault. yes 50% is the other is Jacks. Roush is a org. run differntly than most where ther drivers are not in a situation where they know one another, meet, talk, hang out, etc. Its always been like that over there.
FAN5:
Sure you heard DR got totally F'd today?
Fan5, I know exactly where you were headed with J.Sauter. Dealt with alot of that years ago myself.When he was in another
Series. So...
Sauter is more talented than Riggs, Green and hell quite a few guys.He has changed alot as you said and YOU and I know why.
Kathy,
cant wait to see JB back in Cup, even if its for 2 races.
Posted by: Kurt2 | Oct 23, 2007 11:20:25 PM
Thanks Andy, But...I'll stick with Warren...an associate also metioned Lauren, But if you type in Warren Wallace...Gieco commercials come up...#3 it sounds like Lauren...but the kid has toothpick in his mouth! If you type in Lauren Wallace...not so much...You Tube is awsome, Hmmmm seems to be a controversy here...either way ir's STILL funny
Posted by: Fan #5 | Oct 23, 2007 11:15:01 PM
Hey#5; It's LAUREN WALLACE!!!! All Ya Gotta do is ask Mike!!!!
Posted by: Andy | Oct 23, 2007 9:34:42 PM
Ag,
I ride as much as I can, which means near daily. Luckily I work about 600 miles from home and ride to work sometimes. You?
I will also have to check out Ms. #7.
Posted by: Red | Oct 23, 2007 8:41:39 PM
Hmmmmm K2 is auspiciously absent?...anyway if I where Haas/CNC, I'd hire Warren Wallace!...Jeremy Mayfield? I didn't say I wouldn't go Fishin' with the man...Food for thought I sure would die a happy man if Brian Vickers signed up at MWR...C'mon I can only dream!!
Posted by: Fan #5 | Oct 23, 2007 8:14:13 PM
chad
They said their friend was hit on by Green in their living room and stuff and it was gross and they felt dirty just being there.
its like the national enquirer on here LOL
e nation here my vote for mvp or at least a co MVP for John.
Looks like a straight across swap to me. One monkey spanker for another.
Red, do you ride year round where you live in the usa??
Posted by: aggie | Oct 23, 2007 8:05:54 PM
Other drivers available for the 66:
1. Chad Little (corn crop is in)
2. Morgan Shepard (for one sparkling lap)
3. Maryln Hodges (Concord, NC. school bus driver)
4. Nate Gundersen (Wisconsin Pabst Beer truck delivery man)
5. Ron Paul
Posted by: buddynoel | Oct 23, 2007 7:40:34 PM
Red - It's Gene Haas, not Carl Haas.
BTW, the Haas-CNC Racing shop in Kannapolis NC is awesome. They use Hendrick engines, get chassis from HMS and have Matt Borland at the helm. The worm is bound to turn.
Now I think the world of Bootie Barker, but in my opinion, Haas needs to cut Bootie loose and Harold Holly, too.
Posted by: Chad | Oct 23, 2007 7:27:27 PM
There was a comment on the ESPN.com article about Mayfield/Green and someone said that Green is a dirty old man, if you know what I mean. They said their friend was hit on by Green in their living room and stuff and it was gross and they felt dirty just being there.
Let's cut to brass tacks here. Green sucks in Cup. There's no way around it.
Posted by: Chad | Oct 23, 2007 7:25:10 PM
f5
Fan5 ---THAT was funny. aggies brains are like Newman's qual laps, but fingers like MTJ at M'Ville. LMFAO!!!
cant slide much by you otw guys
Posted by: aggie | Oct 23, 2007 6:26:23 PM
Mr Red
Erin looks pretty good to me, no Delana Harvick mind you, but pretty good.
Red you really have to check out the #7 babe Athena Barber great looking low milage 1981 model, best loking wife g/f on pit lane.
Posted by: aggie | Oct 23, 2007 6:22:42 PM
Jon2
thanks for education and the very informative post, one has to love these blogs
Our former President got his ivory tower polished by a poor little Jewish girl in the Oval Office, the first recorded tryst between a Southern Baptist and a Jew.
LMAO you do have way with words, the above was worth my post and again thanks for the reply
You read a textbook? yes
You were in school?yes
Posted by: aggie | Oct 23, 2007 6:19:54 PM
Keith12
I don't understand why everyone is so
quick to blame Jeremy Mayfield.
Your comments are the best ones, I have
read yet.
Gosh! we know, he's not the best driver
out there but give him a break.
Posted by: Blueeyes | Oct 23, 2007 6:16:14 PM
Anyone who takes Dale Sr. out and then wins the race ain't all that bad...
Posted by: ritch3 | Oct 23, 2007 5:39:08 PM
Mayfield always seemed cocky to me, and I didn't quite like his smarmy attitude when he knocked The Intimidator out of the way at Pocono. Not that I didn't like the move, because Dale's done the same thing, and that's racin', but it was how he carried himself afterwards, like he had conquered The Legend. Whatever. He should have been HONORED to beat that man, but he certainly didn't come off that way.
That being said, as much as I don't like JM, I also don't care for, in my opinion, Evernham's handling of his race teams, especially since one of my favorite drivers is sitting in a piece of shit car on RE's team. I still blame Ray for spending too much time smelling Crocker's crotch than keeping an eye on his operation. I know Kurt2 will get all worked up about that, but we just agree to disagree on a few things.
Posted by: Ironman | Oct 23, 2007 5:23:17 PM
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