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February 10, 2008
Earnhardt Jr. wins the Shootout
Dale Earnhardt Jr. won the Bud Shootout with his new number and team, but is it really that surprising? Not to me, but I've been in a few discussions already that I don't give him enough credit for winning. Yes, he won, but it's at Daytona and he was in "better equipment" according to his fans. Dale Jr. was expected to win Daytona, he has always had good runs and wins at the restrictor plate tracks of Daytona and Dega, so it wasn't a surprise that he won the Shootout. He ran a good race, yes, I'll give him that and I've never said he was a bad driver, but this was Daytona.
Dale Jr. led the most laps , 47 I believe, and Tony Stewart, who finished second, led laps, which was the second most laps led. There were only 4 cautions and 5 drivers finished out of the race.
It seems as if Denny Hamlin was his usual aggressive self, taking a bit more chances than he should, almost causing a couple more cautions, especially when he ran Bowyer down the track and below the yellow line.
Your thoughts?
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J2,
"Preposterous. Your logic is ridiculous"
Maybe if you had any insight in this world I live in you could grasp it. you live on the Fantasy Island Media PR Fest...
Elmer went poof, Elmer went bye bye... Elmer was a DUD, sorry meant Fudd.
As a FYI,since you are the CUP authority. ALL ISC TRACKS DO CONTRACT PRIVATE FIRMS FOR SECURITY, you are correct there..
The one contracted in Homestead , DOES NOT IN FACT RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THERE EMPLOYEES..
That alone is the reason for Elmer shutting his trap real damn quick.. A ceratin lasy on here did her homework and pointed out Elmers past... DAmn J2, Grace Ann won that one..... Maybe do as she does ...READ....
Keep the doll off the keyboard when you type or get the JJ doll to look into Elmer for you
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 16, 2008 4:19:20 PM
Graceann,
It's my understanding, and I might be wrong, Archibald was a private security guard employed by a private agency under contract to whoever runs the Homestead org.
Typically, these private guard firms run extensive background checks on their employees since many of them come into contact with valuables, etc.
Charges being dropped can mean several things: 1) no case, or 2) negotiations to settle the matter through more than likely a compensatory agreement have been arranged with no admission of guilt.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 13, 2008 2:54:47 PM
Its out of the limelight because the man fell of his accord, not because KK pushed him down. He also has probably dropped charges due to not wanting his past exposed to public scrutiny and then we will all know that Homestead did not do background checks on their personnel.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 13, 2008 2:40:33 PM
K2,
Once again, everything you say in your first para is irrelevant, the fact he's alleged to have only checked KK's cred and no one else's is irrelevant, alleged to have been slacking on the job is irrelevant, a lecture by his boss is irrelevant, not abiding by his employment requirement is irrelevant.
What is relevant is the fact that Archibald was assaulted by Kasey and that's the point of interest and the other stuff you and Graceann bring up has no bearing whatsoever on the matter. Even if Archibald should not have contested Kasey's creds, the assault should not have occurred regardless of the circumstance in which it played out.
So several deputies or witnesses would perjur themselves in order to speak out for a nobody like Archibald? So all, I heard there was six+ who witnessed the assault, conspired against Kasey and consequently might jeopardize, in several cases, their law enforcement careers for the sake of an old man?
Preposterous. Your logic is ridiculous.
Once again with respect to the media interest and I believe I mentioned this earlier but apparently......well anyway, here goes: The NASCAR mainstream media more than likely does not consider a cowardly assault by a driver upon an elderly person worthy of a footnote in the news either because 1) Junior occupies news interest at this time, or 2) NASCAR is embarrassed that one of their own is a midget of a man to have done what he did and a discredit to the NASCAR image of the sport of the common man.
Course this matter's out of the limelight at this point. Neither side at this point wants this matter played out in the public eye. Neither side wants this to go to court. That's why it'll be settled out of sight.
That Rooster he's got a sense of humor don't he?
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 13, 2008 2:33:12 PM
Well let's see, KK has dyed his hair, has no girlfriend,{I think} GEM is working on the cars. He might just might run better this season. If he hooks up with a girl, the season is shot. So he might just have to find another team. I would not worry though J2, HMS has a habit of taking the guys that bring money and we allknow that KK can sure bring money. Look at all the girls that chase him.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 13, 2008 2:20:07 PM
J2 creds. are the issue here. NO one wears theres. There is a good reason anyone from Driver , CC to Crew Member doesnt sport the creds.
Elmer STOPPED HIM for them, remember? you ahve selective memory alot I see.
Since you are convincting Kasey, where has all this talk been Media week and hell all throughtout thye offseason? Kinda went "POOF"..
Humm Elmer gets a scumball Miami lawyer, pranches and preaches. Kasey gets lawyer and POOF no Archie, no scum lawyer..Kinda odd.
Your witnessess are Monroe County Deputys... Maybe research them a tad before you claim creditablity...They are in fact worse than most around
Oh BTW Rooster loves you calling him little. Anytime you would like he would glady invite you to the 24 Pit ..Then you can see "little"
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 13, 2008 1:48:18 PM
Graceann,
Boss, other drivers, credentials, sitting on the job, that's all irrelevant and a detour on your part in order to minimalize what transpired during the confrontation. What's relevant is the assault.
And it looks like Archibald has the witnesses to back up his take on things.
I used to like Kasey, but that was before he started his crusade against the elderly. Now I think he's less than a man.
Not to change the subject, but I read somewhere that this is the year for Kasey to either start putting some good numbers up on the board or this'd be the last year he's with GEM. It appears the investment group is requiring their drivers to perform, or get out. I believe it was one of those NASCAR.com articles, and no it wasn't Poole. Since this is your boy, do you have any insight and comment on this matter?
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 13, 2008 11:52:06 AM
No J2 I don't have an obsession supporting a person beating elderly people. I just happen to believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. This Archibald Hutchinson that you hold so high, is not feeble and half dead like you would like people to think. He was sitting down on the job and letting anybody who wanted to pass into lot walk right pass him. That is until the boss man told him to stop, tell me J2 how many drivers went through that gate without being checked? How many times did KK go through before without being checked, making him think he could do it again? Do you know any of this? After all this has come into light J2, how many drivers do you see wearing their credentials? I have seen KK wearing his, have you or do you just take the word of other people that you do not know just because they say things about people you happen to despise.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 13, 2008 11:18:23 AM
Graceann,
Uh, blame it on Diane, she instigated me into denouncing the worm.
Uh, there were witnesses who corroborated Archibald's description of events. Credible witnesses = convictions.
Not superior, just sad that an elderly man, trying to make ends meet in a thankless job, in the twilight of his years, gets beat upon by a celebrity.
On the flip side Graceann, might we discuss your obsession with supporting those who beat up the elderly? It appears you've hitched your wagon to a grandpa beater.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 13, 2008 10:22:40 AM
J2: Why is it that every time you get backed in a corner you slam KK? You have NO evidence to back your story, other than what you have read in the paper and on the Internet. You were not there in person so do not know the real truth to the story. It does state in our country that we are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, I would think that you would let the Judge do his job. KK is not a threat to you, so why do you insist on slandering his name on a public forum daily with gibberish? Does this some how make you feel superior? Not a day or topic goes by that you can't wait to bring this up, you sir have serious problems or your obsession with KK in controlling your life.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 12, 2008 6:32:06 PM
Good one K2.
What do you think of the 6 race probation punishment?
Posted by: Diane | Feb 12, 2008 4:16:29 PM
Sorry Jr fans and Kathy:
"Probably 'cause the media has more important topics to discuss than a piss ant of a person raining blows down on an old man; ya ever hear of a driver named Junior"
Here is why I am sorry, J2 last year till he went over you hated him now it appears you are BLOWING HIM nightly.. JJ might get upset though..
See J2 the mouth is still prevalant:)
I swear the piss ant wouldnt bow from you either. you are pisseed Elmer backed off
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 12, 2008 3:47:18 PM
Gee whiz Kathy, you're still hung up on the meaning of disciple? It has a broader meaning than just one related to religion.
Anyway, thank you for agreeing partially with me on the elderly and it appears your recent rant on "passion" might have been the earlier cause for the little worm's undoing.
K2,
Don't slam you for your comments. I enjoy the give and take, especially your "Rick Order" allegations with a little Rooster thrown in for added effect, they're typically a hoot. Just sometimes get uncomfortable with your use of language, that's all.
I don't feel like doing the dueling airgun thing at this moment.
Probably 'cause the media has more important topics to discuss than a piss ant of a person raining blows down on an old man; ya ever hear of a driver named Junior?
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 12, 2008 1:41:22 PM
The Gaston Gazette is in Gastonia NC...right above Charlotte.Home of the infamous Well's Fargo heist and a well known buffet hound that is getting overpaid for his singular thoughts on fans and racing.
Just ignore J2,as hard as it is,especially after an adult content or 7....
Racing,Racing,Racing!!Based on the crazyness I saw in practice and the Shootout...these 150 duals should be crazy especially for those trying to get in the 500.I guess since the back end is sliding around so much,the 20 decided to put on a few lbs for a weight advantage maybe?LOL!Sorry D!
Posted by: DJ | Feb 12, 2008 1:21:13 PM
There you go with disciples again, I would actually refrain from that if I were you, since everyone knows HMS isn't a religion, they might start thinking of it as a cult with all your disciple and loyal follower talk.
Yes, the elderly should not be mistreated, but I think there's a lot more to this whole thing than we know. How about taking up the cause of mistreatment of the elderly in your town instead of focusing on KK.
Posted by: Kathy | Feb 12, 2008 12:58:31 PM
Aggie, You are talking about Hinton and the Orlando paper, not Poole with Buffett lines.
Now J2,
Pot calling the kettle black? You slam me for "comments", but you are free to?
Ok to address Fantasy Island Love Fest in Victory Lane the other night.. I was intially shocked that they had a coat big enough for RH .
It was a hell of a PR touch with the gathering there. Wont happen this week though. You take the Shootout as the 500, nope not clsoe at all..
Please note not all drivers, teams and personell OBEY, all arent disciples, nor all kiss rear orfices... I see it took you a while to post this week. did you come out of Ricks or JJ's orfice to breathe.. Good now you can see the 125's
BTW, funny Media week and Speedweeks : Odd that no reporter or media outlet has even brought up Elmer and KK. Pretty odd...
You have revulsion ? Well from your post on the last topic I did too. Remeber you take guns and beat people with them.. So since I am younger you might want to have a major issue with me.. Why you ask? Because I could see a 20 something having a issue with your gibberish.
Cant wait for your retort, I am sure it will involve a airgun, or something....
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 12, 2008 12:40:34 PM
Thanks Jon2 - Now I can get on with my day It isn't complete until you blast KK and show your devotion to HMS. :D
Posted by: Diane | Feb 12, 2008 12:00:44 PM
Kathy,
No, that's all me talking. HMS don't provide talking points to it's disciples.
Can't you just feel the revulsion that I have toward those who mistreat the elderly?
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 12, 2008 11:45:46 AM
Jon 2
raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows raining blows
KK hit him with so many rights elmer fudd starting for a left hook
piss ant of a person
in all seriouness where do u dream this stuff up, you may have missed your call in life as a creative writer for the national enquirer??
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 12, 2008 11:45:01 AM
Jon 2
KK is a worm and a piss ant of a person for raining blows down upon the elderly.
that is his new bud comercial and you must ahve seen a sneal peek of it on U tube
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 12, 2008 11:41:07 AM
That paper that had the ex felons in vic lane
that is tacky bull shit national enquier jounalism, which i ocationally do read lol
same journalists that cover britney i think
what kind of paper is that?? ass wipe in some wood shed??
speaking of the media do any of you know where or ed hinton is writing for now
he quit the orlando paper when they cut back on nascar coverage and yes i know k2 he will lose 50 lbs now that he isnt at the buffets on pit lane!!!
is thursday here yet????????
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 12, 2008 11:37:19 AM
KK is a worm and a piss ant of a person for raining blows down upon the elderly.
Wow Jon2, now it's blows? You can definitely spin it, did you learn that from HMS too?
Posted by: Kathy | Feb 12, 2008 11:22:05 AM
For the benefit of Ms. Diane, and in order to help complete her day:
KK is a worm and a piss ant of a person for raining blows down upon the elderly.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 12, 2008 10:34:38 AM
Hello to team racing. Ain't it great?
NOT.
Posted by: Gwyn | Feb 12, 2008 9:59:32 AM
Hello to team racing. Ain't it great?
NOT.
Posted by: Gwyn | Feb 12, 2008 9:58:30 AM
if you have jr gordon,johnson and mears lined up1-4.
gordon breaks high, jimmy low. who does casey follow ?
Posted by: Kevin | Feb 12, 2008 9:42:23 AM
Mary,
People who make mistakes in life are capable of redeeming themselves.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 12, 2008 9:25:34 AM
1,2,3.....raaaalllppphhhh....eeaaaarrllllla.Hey,bring the dang mop again Jr.I just dropped another projectile on the floor!Compliments of J2........
Posted by: DJ | Feb 12, 2008 8:12:45 AM
Point?
#2 Pencils create a sharper point when sharpened than #1 pencils.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 12, 2008 8:07:04 AM
RE: Teammates in VL.
Has anyone ever witnessed a more cohesive team than the HMS org displayed in VL and on the track for the Bud shootout?
I can't recall.
I feel in my old bones this is going to be another great year for that org.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 12, 2008 7:34:01 AM
Mary, Junior Johnson was an ex-con too, so your point is?
Posted by: Rich | Feb 12, 2008 7:28:11 AM
THE GASTON GAZETTE FAILED TO MENTION THAT AN EX-CON WON THE BUD SHOOTOUT.
THANKS FOR READING.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 12, 2008 6:27:46 AM
My boy winnin' the BUD shootout was great,and frankly,this takes atleast a little pressure off a "must win" at DAYTONA this week...
I gotta be honest,if he wins the DAYTONA 500,everybody in the world will expect him to finally be ready for a championship,and I hope he is,butI'm not so sure a win would be a good thing for JUNIOR...{please don't crucify me for sayin this junior fans,cause I want him to win ALL the races}
If he wins at DAYTONA,expectations will peak too soon for him,and we all know that the NASCAR season is a LONG marathon...
Not to mention,you can win a ton of races in the first few months and its all for very little once the "CHASE" starts..{JUST ASK JEFF GORDON}. I want him to win a title with consistency as well as wins...its the DNF's that really kill a drivers chances at a title,so keeping out of wall and out of trouble with others will be a priority..I don't forsee him having to worry about blowing up motors this year :) ...I just want him to feel at ease with driving at HENDRICK {I know,that's impossible at this point}...I just feel that JUNIOR does so well at DAYTONA that the media will label him a "disapointment" if he doesn't win the 500...and that would be a shame,cause when he has a good car,he usually ends up with great results..but even his dad couldn't win em' all...so we shouldn't expect him to win every restrictor plate race either...{or every race at richmond for that matter} I say in order for his season to be a success,I predict 4 wins,and a top 5 in points would be a great step to a championship soon...but if he does win the title I'll be as happy as anyone. GREAT RACE JUNIOR..WOO HOO!!
Posted by: earnhardt nation | Feb 12, 2008 3:37:20 AM
Rick Hendrick, Jeff Gordon, Jimmy Johnson and Casey Mears were all in victory lane with Junior. It was the greatest thing I have ever seen. Those that didn't see it must be blind. Rick even spoke about it later.
Posted by: Frances Hodges | Feb 12, 2008 12:36:03 AM
Aggie, You would be correct. lol
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 11, 2008 11:19:53 PM
F5
some guy told them this was same lifters the HMS Loveboat used...I smell a conspiraciy!...
f5/grassy knoll hurry up and call oliver stone and do a movie on the o8 trd lifter conspiracy
call it the "f5 and the grassy knoll lifters"
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 10:27:38 PM
Andy
sooooooooooooo sorrrrrrrrry master Andy
okok lil brain freeeeeeeeeze yes the guy that laid low and won it all and created the the f--king chase MK #17 a class act, roush should be a 3 car team
16-17 and one more guy and not one of the 3 they have now
Gann
i know, you probably have a 9 embossed on your tv screen to remind you lol
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 10:21:58 PM
Aggie, I never once confused the #9 Budweiser Dodge Of KK with the old Bud car. I guess you knew that was coming though didn'tyou.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 11, 2008 9:37:34 PM
Geez Aggie; Theres another FORD out there that's NEVER missed a chase,and was also the last TRUE champion! Did you forget about him?
Posted by: Andy | Feb 11, 2008 9:16:03 PM
barb G
Yipee - Alan Bestwick is back on NASCAR Now. He'll be doing the 1 hour show on Mondays.
well i like dave d but he just let mw get out of hand too much, the real good guys like TS would cost too much $$$ to have on that show......with TS u would have a real show ...... the biff i like on that show, mw is ok, ks is ok, bv actually was pretty good same with Jbenson
di
actually the 55 cot didnt look that bad
come on now many of you when u saw that #9 right away thought?? whats jr doing,,,,,lol then oooops forgot that is was KK ....that amp car still look Fuglyy
k2
when are the fords waking up?? april 15th??
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 9:09:40 PM
That's great news, Diane! I'm happy to see Allen back!
It's cold in the Poconos as well. It was 6 degrees with a WCF of -15 this morning. I'm so ready for spring.
Posted by: Barb g | Feb 11, 2008 8:40:50 PM
Yipee - Alan Bestwick is back on NASCAR Now. He'll be doing the 1 hour show on Mondays.
Aggie - Our temps here in Indiana aren't as low as yours, but we've had 20 below wind chills the last 2 days and supposed to get up to 8 inches of snow tonight. You stay warm up there!!
I want Tony to wear orange and black for the rest of his career. The new paint job on the 20 is a lot nicer than last year.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 11, 2008 6:28:57 PM
Dianne
typical TE and she wonders why people hate her........what a way to live!! she can have it
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
k2 IS lying like a sidewalk about those RCR engines!!
k2 i love your humour for the 08 season see what marriage does to you!!
no iam not bashing rcr or KH BUT
here is an interesting stat on KH
he led a total of 20 laps led in the final 16 events. talk about a guy getting into the chase on consistancy and a slow chase car
and these RCR drivers were yakking during the media tour how they can run with hms????? lucky if they cna run with trd
i dont think so unless they have made some MASSIVE improvements
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 6:13:04 PM
f5
some of the Icehouses are better than some of the house I've seen down here
your too funny!!!! a couple of guys i know from MN have a few up here on the red river complete with plasma bbq couches ect even hot and cold running maids......ok the real reason they come up here ice fsihing mmmmmmm strips clubs and the casino lol
dianne
its -1 million below how do u think iam doing
lets TURN on some of the tv guys?? k2 your turned on the newspaper guys now its our turn lol is boogietty giiity boogety still on
f5 who is the new host for that monday nite show??
gotta my table booked at the local bada bings for thursday afternoon should be a great afternoon
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 6:01:15 PM
aggie THAT was the problem with TRD lifters...some guy told them this was same lifters the HMS Loveboat used...I smell a conspiraciy!...I can't see UPS with TS...Brown won't make him look any slimmer...I'll gladly take Robby Gordon as a replacement...he's SAINT compare to Bipolar(that is NOT aggie's sister)...some of the Icehouses are better than some of the house I've seen down here
Posted by: Fan #5 | Feb 11, 2008 5:36:40 PM
None of them are angels, K2. KB just rubs me the wrong way.
Good luck this weekend.
Posted by: Barb g | Feb 11, 2008 5:27:47 PM
Following is the headline for a story in the Gaston Gazette:
"Ex-cons rule pole day at Daytona"
Now that's a good headline writer!!
R. Childress & Teresa Earnhardt had a press conference to commemorate Dale Sr's. Daytona 500 win. Here are quotes from a reporter and TE as she was leaving:
As she walked out she was asked, "What did you think of Dale Junior's win (Saturday) night?" She smiled and said, "I'm just here to talk about Dale's car," clapped her hands and left.
F5 - Even though I'm a TS fan, I laughed out loud at your Bi-Polar comment. Good one.
Aggie - are you OK? I'm kind worried about you. :-)
Posted by: Diane | Feb 11, 2008 5:27:06 PM
k2
lol ok its the 150's
smoke and the ups $$$ sure would great at rcr :) UPS needs TS and what a fit at rcr put rcr into the super team league
dont you think smoke is going all out for puplicity in 08?? from the looks it so far
how about the punch out of kb.......
boom boom out go kb lights could not have happened to a nicer guy than KB
smoke is in the heavyweight class now so KB is a lil mis match i think.
next guys in teh ring with "mohamed ali-smoke"
are probably JPM, biff or your buddy KH or someone on his team like DH or kyb
smoke trys that shit on DB, Db would kick his ass right out of the hauler, smoke puts on 40 lbs at bruger king and now thinks he is hulk hogan, he is due for a tune up on and off the track soon!!
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 5:04:18 PM
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
AGGIE IS ON THE PIPE AGAIN:)
PLEASE STAY 1000 MILES AWAY FROM THIS MAN WHILE THE PIPE IS IN HIS POSSESSION..
jk aggie
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 11, 2008 3:21:51 PM
f5
you ole snake in an iglooo on mille lacs lol
Yes the lifter issue will be a "non-factor" come raceday
well if you say so then its a trd and hms show for sure and maybe a sneaky rcr car trying to sneak in
tell trd to call crane for some lifters the sb chev ones should work lol !!!!! and get some smith push rods plus i foregt who's valve springs to use and their valve train should be ok for 300 laps!!
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 11, 2008 3:16:28 PM
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