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February 05, 2008
NASCAR needs to allow drivers to show the passion of the sport
I remember back when the drivers were allowed to show their passion, that's not the way it is today. In the last twenty years or so, NASCAR has tried to dumb down the passion of the drivers, not allowing them to show emotion, making them seem more like PC robots.
I know that a lot of the fans that read this blog, love it when drivers get fired up about something and they get even more fired up when the drivers in question get penalized for showing their passion. I know this is suppose to be a family sport, but come on, NASCAR is not a love fest, drivers aren't going to sit around and sing Kumbaya. I want to see the drivers get angry and show emotion and I'd like to see it more often, without NASCAR's interference.
There are just too many drivers that don't show the passion and that's sad. Luckily we still have a few that aren't afraid to shake things up and speak their minds or actually get angry and if NASCAR would actually pay attention, they'd see the fans love that.
Drivers like Tony Stewart, Kevin Harvick, Robby Gordon, Kyle Busch and the "old" Kurt Busch, those are the drivers that show their passion. I just wish there were more of them. Remember the Harvick and Montoya confrontation at the road course? We need more of that, driver confrontations to show they're not robots programmed to drive cars. Heck, even Jeff Gordon showed his passion when he shoved Kenseth in the pits, granted we don't see him do something like that that often, but it shows his passion for the sport and the competition of the sport.
But NASCAR seems to think that's bad for the sport, that it'll give the sport a black eye or something. Well, why do you think NASCAR has lost so many longtime fans? One of the reasons is because the sport has become so PC that the fans can't stand it, throw in all the cookie cutter tracks and megateams and you'll see why fans are leaving.
NASCAR needs to allow the drivers to show their emotions, whether it be happy or mad and the fans will eat it up.
Your thoughts?
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And that is why the 88 will have a better chance to do well this year.GOOD Equipment.That is the only reason why the 48 has had the success he has had.That IS the only reason Jr came over.It offered him his best chance for a championship.I hate it, as do alot.That is why us regular people appreciate someone that can actually save a car like the 7,99,18,16 or 20.They don't whine like a bitch about thier car like Jr has in the past.They drive thier ass off and finish as good as their talent and equipment will allow them to.Sure the 48 has some talent,but the only thing he won in Busch was a gas milage thing in the 92 car.The 24 didn't do much better.HMS gave them the equipment that made them become Cup superstars.Not their God given talent.I'll side with the 24 on talent because he was racing since he was -2 years old,so that is all he knows other than dating women taller than him.
Damn I hope someone takes out the 24 and 48.HMS may be a good thing for the fairy type fans that actually pull for them...but it truly is bad for the sport...Sour apples?Naw.I pull for the 7 car.My boy will not be able to get up there week end and week out.But it just seems i am finding reasons more and more to pull against all kind of drivers than actually pulling for a favorite.Thanks Nascar.........
Posted by: DJ | Feb 10, 2008 8:04:01 PM
K2,
Yes nice night for Blaney, however, and Bill Davis mentioned this last year, he wishes Dave were more of a competitive driver than what he's shown to be. The #22 had been a very good car during certain races last year and according to Bill, Dave didn't take advantage of the matter like he should've and either won or placed better.
Junior ran good because he had the equipment that DEI used to give him for the restrictor plate races when him and Mikey ruled that venue. Add to that, HMS'll give him good equipment for all the race venues.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 10, 2008 3:51:40 PM
J2,
Since you are becoming a tad feeble these days. FOR THE RECORD:
I said that he can drive Tonya, he can, said since before the beginning of testing Tonya is NOT a true test of what is to come this year..
In case you havent read or noticed. I do not have personal issues with Jr, nor Personal issues with Jeff.
(HINT: thats why i dont slam either one). I dont do that to friends
F5, he is worried about KK, Reed or Jamie thumping on him..")
Di, I believe he wants to be Elmer Fudds love child. Pretty funny you heard no mention last evening of that at all .HUMMMM
Nothing as of yet, they wanted to wait to after last night to see if the two were going to "behave", and they did..BUT HAD TO GO BACK TO BEING PC
J2, what was you comment on Kevin in the booth?????? Care to explain?
Once again nice night for Blaney and Casey M
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 10, 2008 11:15:11 AM
K2 - You're right. Things could be completely different on the non-restrictor tracks. Let's hope the top finishers have a little more "owner variety" in the future.
Jon - I don't have to be a K2 defender but what more do you want from him? He said "Jr did well, the kid can drive." Do you want him to join J2 on fantasy island?
J2 said - "If they hadn't had to restart the way they did chances were all four HMS cars would have gotten in line for the finish."
I say if they hadn't had a caution Stewart would have won. Also, no matter who pushed Jr. to the win, he would have thanked them. Well almost anyone. :-)
F5 & Graceanne - Right on. I think we should be seriously worried about J2's Archibald obsession.
K2 - Have you heard anything about penalties? Let's hope they do the right thing and let this one go. Both were overly PC in their interviews yesterday. Both were spouting BS. LOL.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 10, 2008 10:13:20 AM
His obsession with Kahne is getting scary. He needs to seek mental help for that, I bet Archibald could help with in that area. On second thought, he 's been revoked!
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 10, 2008 9:42:20 AM
K2, I figured it out! Jon2 won't attend a nascar race because of his insistant fear of being pummeled by Kasey Kahne...Who'da thunk?
Posted by: Fan #5 | Feb 10, 2008 9:21:36 AM
Diane,
It is.
Take Note: Almost the first words out of Junior's mouth were directed at "Puff" "Jealous Jimmy" and I'll paraphrase for Junior since he's at a loss of words, " Jimmy Johnson was instrumental in winning that race for me." The HMS lovefest has begun.
If they hadn't had to restart the way they did chances were all four HMS cars would have gotten in line for the finish.
Junior was awesome, Tony excited us as usual (look out Ford, Chevy, & Dodge) , the COT was a magnificent car (Kevin Harvick lauded the car in the announcers booth), and my man in an untested backup car was contending for the win.
Stewart vs. Busch: And who was it said the emotionating was gone from NASCAR and this happened before any racing's occurred.
K2,
Heard on FOX that Stewart decked Busch in the trailer, can you confirm?
Heard that NASCAR is considering a KASEY KAHNE free zone for the elderly NASCAR attendees, can you confirm?
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 10, 2008 8:46:03 AM
Kurt2,
Cant you just give him his due for winning the Shootout? The man can drive and car and he has proven he can win on other tracks other than restrictor plate tracks already.
GO Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Posted by: Jon | Feb 10, 2008 1:06:03 AM
Woo Hoo!!! KK top ten!! Better than last season, see it doesn't take much for me!!! I was surrounded by Jr. & Stewart fans. KK sounded good on the scanner, more confident with Kenny than last season. Sure hope things are calming down for them.
Posted by: Graceann | Feb 10, 2008 12:14:31 AM
Di,
Dont use tonight as anything yet.. Jr did well, the kid can drive Tonya... No debate.
next week you have many many more players in this Chess game...
Good job by Blaney, Casey M, nice showing by Kasey Kahne as well...As we said Jamie is still Jamie:)
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 11:45:07 PM
Well Jon2, I bet you are in heaven tonight. HMS wins the race and has all 4 cars in the top 6. Is this a sign of things to come for the rest of the season?
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 10:46:59 PM
Just wanted to let the fans know that Nascar.com has free Pitcommand for tonight Shootout and the rest of the week. Here's your chance to listen to your drivers, check it out!
Posted by: SteveH. | Feb 9, 2008 8:05:18 PM
K2 they WON't listen to me about the splitter...your gonna HATE what they have in mind! You wanna barrow some shin guards and some steel toe boots?
Posted by: Fan #5 | Feb 9, 2008 6:58:48 PM
WOO HOO Congtats to BDR abd Michael Annett for thw first Toyota win of the season!
Posted by: Fan #5 | Feb 9, 2008 6:17:00 PM
Diane,
Thanks I'll take a look.
K2,
Already blocking during practice for the Shootout even before the race starts. Looks like a backup car for Jeff.
Posted by: Jon2 | Feb 9, 2008 5:11:06 PM
In case you're not watching the ARCA race, they just had a big crash. Many cars damaged, looks like a demo derby. Just a prelude to next Sat. & Sun.
Sure is strange to see Frank Kimmel in the 44 car. Does anyone know why he left the 46?
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 5:01:20 PM
Kurt2,
Appreciate the response, "Will Let It Be", and wait and see. Have a great weekend!
Posted by: SteveH. | Feb 9, 2008 4:42:48 PM
Daly
Give it to you that was good... LMAO
Hell MM hit the damn hydrant, and lets not even talk about Steven W....
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 4:40:41 PM
BREAKING NEWS! ENTIRE DAYTONA 500 FIELD CRASHES WHILE PARKED IN THE GARAGE AREA!!!!!!
;-) The way this Speedweeks is going you may see something like that. ;-)
Posted by: Mike Daly | Feb 9, 2008 4:33:23 PM
SteveH
Lets see with NASCAR there isnt a "RULE" per se. Its always the same one.
"actions detremential to stock car" blah blah blah...
Get the point? NASCAR is really gray on assessed penalties, more or less a case by case basis than not..
As I said , those 2 will be have tonight. When they do NASCAR showed let it be .It was practice and it was Brian wanted to happen. More self expression of emotions.
If Poole wants Kurt to sit tonight,(which isnt happening) he needs to be aware that Tony accidentally threw a punch in front of the POWERS that ARE>.. So if thats the case they both sit (like that will happen).
Can you fathom if NASCAR attempts this how happy Home Depot and Miller would be? We are spilt on this in here, but IMO soley, they both f'd up, they both are "OK" now, let it be.
But it ownt be left alone by the Media and the verbal exchange and other exchange that happened will never come out in details.
What happens in the garage to a lot of extent stays in the garage...
Its almost dinner time for the MEDIA Center, I know who is first in line there...
Steve this isnt to you:
By the way umm Mr I disappeared to Fantasy Island lately. We all spent some time discussing the media. #1 in most books to soley "TOLERATE" because they have to is your buddy whom is in the MEdia center... odd isnt it.
Traded some interesting stories about him as well this weekend and hell learned even more...
J2, have a great race, BTW honestly sorry the 24 was caught up in the 2nd incident last evening, but that 48 looked pretty good sitting there with no front:)
Welcome to NASCAR 2008
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 4:14:06 PM
As much as I hope NASCAR puts their money where their mouths are about letting boys be boys I think some penalties will be forthcoming. Call me a skeptic but I think the beating and banging on pit road will get somebody a penalty. It looked to me like the wreck was a situation of six-of-one and a-half-dozen of the other.
As to the rumored roundhouse in the Oval Office/Phone Booth it's anybody's guess as far as penalties go. NASCAR loves the publicity so who knows what they'll do. Or not do.
Posted by: Barb g | Feb 9, 2008 4:05:50 PM
Since there's still a feud going on between Kurt B. and Kyle B., I wonder if Kyle paid Tony to take care of Kurt for him? LOL. Those brothers need to get things worked out between them. Family is too important to let things fester.
BTW I'm having trouble with my TV. I can't seem to get the thing to change channels. It's stuck on SPEED. Hope I can get it fixed before I need to go to the Fox channel tonight :-).
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 3:50:00 PM
Kurt2,
Hope your enjoying yourself at Daytona, it's been a interesting weekend so far. I have a question for you. What is the penalty for what happened in the garage or Nascar trailer in front of the officials? not trying to raise any hairs here, just curious about the rule! If I don't get a response, I'll let it go for what it is.
Posted by: SteveH. | Feb 9, 2008 3:48:53 PM
Aggie, that's often true when the AHL's Atlantic Division foes meet up (about TQ of those teams' schedules are division games, which keeps travel costs down and intensifies the rivalries).
And based on what happened Friday night, a hockey game broke out between Tony Stewart and Kurt Busch.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Feb 9, 2008 3:36:59 PM
Mike d
AHL game Friday night and there were so many fights in the first period
whats the old saying?? we went to night at the fights and a hockey game broke out!!
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 9, 2008 3:28:04 PM
Daly, thanks for the link.. Know the face, generally dont hang around media types for a few reasons. Nothing against them at all.
Me, not a hockey fan, but hell the RED TRUCK had some intersting things. Its out now so be it..
Going to be real intersting on how Helton handles this one...
Unfortunately Smoke cant deny it happened with where it did happen..
Thats the passion I am speaking of, things got a tad heated, wrods were exchanged and things hit the fan..
That incident can be looked at in 2 ways, objectively and I mean it, Smoke shouldnt have tried that in freaking pratice, then I know too well Kurt got pissed and it all went to hell real fast. He is over it, it happened and sorry but the media needs to let it go.
Oh well back to see whom else gets ticked with whom now, thats the way it is going today
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 3:19:18 PM
Kurt2, I've already had my share of barbaric acts of aggression this weekend - I went to the Providence Bruins-Hartford Wolfpack AHL game Friday night and there were so many fights in the first period (I didn't know Kurt Busch and Tony Stewart played hockey!) that the Bruins were down at least one man for the opening seven minutes of the second period and surrendered five power play goals in a 7-5 loss.
Now THAT was excitement.
I just don't like that kind of stuff in racing - I want to see them RACING - battling for the win and not just wrecking and getting into fights.
BTW, click my name on this post for an interesting Mulhern report on Friday's stuff.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Feb 9, 2008 2:42:06 PM
Daly,
I will be the first to admit the turning radius and the fact on the rear not sticking, it will be worked thru. Some has been addressed today already..
All I meant is the CAR isnt going to go bye bye, it will be worked and fixed in time.
Since you dont like barbaric acts of aggression you might not want to see the race this evening> Just kidding Daly
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 2:23:36 PM
Kurt2, I know it's the Car of Today, but calling it the COT is my little protest at something no one should believe in.
I saw some of the practice earlier today and these cars don't look secure to the track even by themselves - they all looked a little bit in a sideways drift.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Feb 9, 2008 2:20:39 PM
K2 - Jaun also doesn't know that you don't just call him Juan, you have to call him Juan Pablo. LOL.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 2:04:44 PM
I swear Di the Mental health center has weekend passes:) Hell my spelling sucks but he cant even spell Juan...:)
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 1:57:33 PM
Juan - are you the same one who posted on the other side with the name "Robby Gordon"?
Sounds like the same person to me.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 1:48:57 PM
LOL, Kevin did not have the balls to take me on last year, I was ready and shoved him like a sissy, Kevin is real tough when he has his pit crew around to allow his alligator mouth to over load his canary arse, but hey any time Kevin wants some of Juan I am not hard to find.
Juan
Posted by: Jaun Montoya | Feb 9, 2008 1:39:49 PM
K2 - ditto from me.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 12:03:47 PM
Di,
There are 2 drivers whom are in just "wonderful moods" today:)
IMO with ALL that did happen it needs to be left alone by NASCAR.. Make it no harm no foul...
He wanted to have them express themselves so they did:)
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 11:46:30 AM
Diane,
I guess I missed it, what was the rumor?
K2,
I can agree with that. Tony was a bit aggressive (I guess that's the word I am looking for) in trying to put his nose in there. After all, it was just practice. I still don't think it's cool to retaliate on or near pit road though.
As for any penalties, I don't know what happened in the trailer (although, I could probably guess wthout hearing the rumor) so I can't say.
Posted by: Radster | Feb 9, 2008 11:40:16 AM
K2 - heard the rumor on SPEED about what might have happened in the Red Trailer. Hope it's not true or was exaggerated or instigated. Guess we'll find out later. If it happened, there's no way it can remain quiet.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 11:23:57 AM
Rad,
Its okay, I can respect where you were coming from. From rewatching today in the transporter.I have to say it was both there faults..The 20 shouldnt have tried to stick it there, then all hell broke loose after.
ON RW, tarnishing the 2's image. please dont get me going on him. He needs to focus on Steven and Busch..
Di, on my friend Poole. Not let KB race? Yeah okayHe didnt find the hot dog stand on the way to Tradin Paint stage.How damnludacrious. THat man is a cronie for all i dont like in CUP,positive he never raced at all.
Sorry there shouldnt be a penalty.... Once and if it comes out what happened in the RED TRAILER, you think penalties should be assessed and you are a SMoke fan, you WONT WANT ANY THING DONE< or you might not see Smoke for a bit
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 11:07:48 AM
Jon2 - following is a link to a column about Hoosier racing, especially Kokomo. Thought you might like to read it.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opinion/02/08/kokomo.nascar.town/index.html
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 10:47:26 AM
k2
and i hate to be neagative as this sucks and makes you wonder how long dodge is in nascar for??
did you or anyone here read where dodge is cuting back on its line up up to 50% ????? to me there all shit boxes
BUT real sad part is its cutting its dealer base by 1/3 that sucks as hits lots of local small dealers in small towns
dianne
Read on another blog that Rusty is upset with Kurt for "tarnishng the 2 car's image". Come on.
rusty should worry about his own stupid KID rather than kurt......i still think rusty isnt the same lol after calling the indy 500 the daytona 500 on the national telecast..........early sign of dementia? no??
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 9, 2008 10:12:16 AM
K2
Aggie, are you becoming someone else? End of last year you were slamming Bowyer> Slamming Harvick and Burton???????
that just to rattle your cage lol........always like the 7 class act remind me of the 17, just getting a tank paint for the harley with a cool non nascar #7 on it, check your email..... kh and his tuff guy BS incidents leave me so so about the guy, BUT he is building a great org. jb is another class act......RCR has come back and in 09 with 20 will be the new super team in nascar with friendly non PC drivers.... i cant wait
TS dont give a fk about this season iam sure..... except to win a championship and get over to rcr in 09
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 9, 2008 10:02:10 AM
K2 - You probably missed "Tradin Paint" last night. Our buddy Poole was on with K. Petty. He said that Kurt should not be able to race tonight because of the incident with TS. Kinda harsh, don't you think?
Read on another blog that Rusty is upset with Kurt for "tarnishng the 2 car's image". Come on.
Just read that GEM sent the wrong nose to Robby. It was a new one that's in the works but hasn't been approved by NASCAR yet.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 9:51:44 AM
K2 - no hate from this 20 fan. You called it as you saw it. Radster did the same. If it had happened in the race, I would have said it was just a racing deal. But since it was practice, Tony shouldn't have been so aggressive and Kurt shouldn't have been blocking. If this feud continues, I just hope no one gets hurt.
Tonight should be an interesting race.
Posted by: Diane | Feb 9, 2008 9:15:13 AM
Flippin’ through the channels and saw the wreck at practice just as it happened (had to giggle when I was who was all involved). All I can say is HMS is gonna need a lot of 3M tape to put those cars back together! My kid wanted to drive over to the I-26/I-95 intersection to watch the HMS haulers head down to DIS. He doesn’t particularly care for HMS, he’s 17 and still thinks he’s superman, so I am glad I talked him out of going! Anyway, K2, I think I have to disagree with you on the 2-20 incident. It looked to me from the one replay (the one looking from behind) that Kurt tried to block or stay in front of the 20 and TS had no where to go. I also think something should be done to Kurt simply for the fact of him beating the sh!t out of the side of TS’s car when the were coming to pit road. If they want to bump and bang on the track, so be it. But on, or coming to, pit road, in my opinion, is a no-no! The 7-12 incident? Well, as the Man used to say, “That’s just racin” (even though it was just practice)! I do agree with what K2 said about RCR though, never ever count out RCR, seams like just when they're on the downslide, here they come like a freight train right back into the mix!
Didn't plan on it but, hell, I might actually have to watch the Bud Shootout now!
Posted by: Radster | Feb 9, 2008 8:38:45 AM
F5, sorry for the delay buddy.. had a TEAM function tonight at a local establishment presented by the Big Wigs..
Anyway, if you need a job I know of one that is now vacant with a ceratin org... Dead serious. Wrong nose was mounted..Needless to say a few people are kinda pissed and one guy in NC doesnt have a job...usually helps to take the time to look at what the hell you are doing.. He got the call about 8 tonight, saying "see you Monday to pack your things"
Di, yes I did sneak into to shots in the show. We had a good time busting chops when the camera wasnt rolling and afterwards..
Daly'
I knew you would say that, welcome to the CAR OF TODAY and THE CAR that isnt going away. i have no objection at all if Bobby were to win the 500, we agree there.
Dont chalk up the wrecks tonight to the car. UH NO..
I know I will be hated for this , but being honest:
The 20 made no sense to attempt that "move" in the freaking pratice session. He FUBR'd , Kurt pissed?, oh yes, so were the 2 team and well we all know after Pit Road the 20 guys werent thrilled either.. This is TO BE CONTINUED>So not over....Kurt has the crap going around as well, hell half of the garage has the flulike crap.. not really fun..
Sidenote: Brian wanted emotion, well there you go, no harm no foul..:)So no penalties should be assessed to either one...
The 12 deal with Bowyer was a innocent err. The spotter cant be blamed for that.. Helll of a lot of demolished cars though.. 50% of HMS went crash and bang:)
Aggie, are you becoming someone else? End of last year you were slamming Bowyer> Slamming Harvick and Burton???????
Dont count out RCR, the man ahs never ever ever quit in this sport and wont allow it to happen..
Hell tommorrow night with a few wrecks , might even get some fists flying..
Posted by: Kurt2 | Feb 9, 2008 1:15:21 AM
di
the whole rcr is looking like their really humble confident and NOT going to back down from hms which is good for the sport.........
like or hate em at rcr you gotta respect them for that and not taking the "oooooh your the champ here let move over for you"
I think the quiet steady work ethic and success of the 7 car is rubbing off on the 2 other rcr cars.....
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 9, 2008 12:06:57 AM
k2
Dont see where Kevin attacked the OW, he made a valid point thats all..
yeah if u look at it that way and iam not sure what kh said about none of this years guys outdoing jpm results from last year????is going to happen. he maybe right as i cant see jpm doing better than he did last year......even on the road courses they good ole us guys give these ringers/ow's a run for their money
Posted by: Aggie | Feb 8, 2008 11:59:11 PM
Ah yes, a grand full-season start to the Car Of Tomorrow era of NASCAR - unstable racecars, drivers trying to imitate Dale Earnhardt and succeeding, a pile of wreckage in the wake, and two of the sport's personality drivers getting hauled to the NASCAR trailer.
My own selfish plug - if they're going to wipe out the 500 field like this, let Bobby Labonte slip through to the win.
Posted by: Mike Daly | Feb 8, 2008 11:45:50 PM
DJ - I guess I shouldn't have gloated after the 1st wreck. I kinda even jumped for joy a little bit. Now I have to eat crow because of the 2nd wreck.
Jr. & Kasey saw the 20 & 2 deal as being caused by the 2 blocking the 20. Biffle said the 20 was juking around and sorta blamed Tony. No matter who's to blame for the on track incident, the banging the 2 did to the 20 on pit road is what's going to cause NASCAR to make a tough decision.
I feel for the crew guys who have to fix the damage done on pit road. Heck I feel for the crew guys who have to fix all 11 cars that were damaged tonight.
I hope the 500 doesn't turn into a demoliton derby.
K2 - did you make it on camera at the Shootout drawing last night? We shoulda asked you to wear a K2 hat so we would recognize you :-).
Posted by: Diane | Feb 8, 2008 8:51:33 PM
All NASCAR needs to clear this up is to say, "Driver/Owner points will only be deducted for on-track incidents. Fines may be levied, but if you are out of the car and off the track no championship points are in play".
So, $25K for a "sh*t" or a shoving incident, cool, these guys can afford it. Where they went wrong was taking points....
Posted by: JWSmoke | Feb 8, 2008 8:25:21 PM
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