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April 10, 2008
Penalties and News this Week
It seems it's been a busy week.
Newman lost 25 points for being too high in post-race inspection at Texas - While I like Newman, I was a little confused on the penalty, I thought all penalties with the COT going forward was suppose to be 100 points no matter what the infraction was, at least that's the way they had been handling it. I don't know all that went on, but I know from past reading of this type of infraction that NASCAR allows the cars some time to "settle" and then allowed to go through again, at least that's what they did last year, but don't how much time, if any, Newman was given. Still, if it was suppose to be 100 points going forward, this penalty doesn't seem to make sense.
Sauter back in the #70 at Phoenix - While Sauter is hopeful it will turn into more than a one week stint, it's kind of funny that Sauter is replacing the driver that replaced him. Mayfield is officially out and Sauter is only slated for Phoenix, but unless they get a driver to un-retire, it might look good for Sauter to get back in the Cup Series. I wonder who Mayfield will blame this time?
Bill Davis Racing sues former sponsor - We all know it takes a lot of money to run in NASCAR, well this was one of Bill Davis Racings problems, their sponsor wasn't paying them. Rockford-Montgomery Labs is the maker of 360 OTC, which Davis had sponsorship for not only his Cup car, but trucks too. Davis' isn't the only suit against them either, World of Outlaws and the WWE have also filed suits again RML because of non-payment.
NASCAR Official killed in car wreck - One of the few female NASCAR Officials was killed when her truck rolled. Brienne Davis was an engine inspector for NASCAR and had joined the NASCAR family in 2004. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.
Firestone interested if Goodyear leaves - While Goodyear has their contract through 2012, Firestone said they would be interested and would love to get back into the sport. While I don't think NASCAR would allow this, it would be interesting to see more than one tire manufacturer back in the sport. I know not all agree, that's just my opinion.
Bill France Sr. inducted into Business Hall of Fame - On Wednesday, J.C. France (grandson and Rolex driver) accepted the induction to the U.S. Business Hall of Fame on behalf of his grandfather.
Target may be leaving Ganassi - This is just a rumor, but is making the rounds again that Target, sponsor of the #41 Ganassi Dodge may leave at the end of the season. Do you blame them? I don't, I mean I don't blame Sorenson, I point my finger at Ganassi. He's had a habit of focusing on one car, even though he's expanded, before it was the #40, then it became the #42 with Montoya. If you don't give all your drivers good equipment, they can't perform to your liking, plain and simple. Unfortunately, I think this is another nail in the coffin for Sorenson, he's the only non-open wheel guy on the team now and hasn't had good equipment since he started after being moved up after only one year in the Busch (now Nationwide) Series where he raced on some tracks for the first time.
Your thoughts?
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If the drivers want to have a suspicious driver tested, if I were them, I would have as many drivers as I could round up voluntarily take the p*ss test; then release the voluntary driver's findings to the media. The drivers not wanting to take the test would publicly be under suspicion by their fans. I think in the long run the drivers refusing to take he test would be under great pressure to get help for their problem or be forced by NASCAR to take a test.
Posted by: racingdiva | Apr 18, 2008 10:36:18 AM
my point about dopeheads,and i mean dope,not just potheads is;no one "looks" like a pothead and everyone looks like a pothead.Meaning u never know who is high on what.Because "everybody's got their something".
Posted by: waynethemainbrain | Apr 13, 2008 10:56:57 PM
CK is the best crew chief in CUP and Jimmie Johnson has shown the past several years he's the best in CUP. The gambler's strategy was a nail biter and it paid off.
Finally a win for HMS in 2008.
Overall was a very exciting race.
Posted by: Jon2 | Apr 13, 2008 10:23:38 AM
Thanks Race Fan, I always have hope just need to be reminded once in a while.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 13, 2008 8:51:52 AM
Congrats to Junior to moving up another spot in the points standing to 3rd, like EN I was hoping that last night was going to be the race he finally gets to Victory Lane.
Good call by Chad Knaus, not that it took a rocket scientist to realize that he was the only one that didn't pit and he had a 10+ second lead and he was able to slow down enough to conserve the fuel.
Posted by: Jon | Apr 13, 2008 8:41:29 AM
JUNIOR moves up to 3rd in points ...guess I can't complain...but just like JUNIOR after the race,I can ACT happy,but I can't LOOK happy...that dude wants a win so bad,I think it makes it worse that he leads so many laps this year but falls short.
I can't congratulate JIMMY JOHNSON cuz "HENDRICKS SUCKS BUT JUNIOR RULZ" !
I will say good call on not pitting for gas,CHAD KNAUS earned his pay this week....the punk.
MIKEYS cars did good enough to all stay in top35...WOO HOO!!
Posted by: EARNHARDT NATION | Apr 13, 2008 1:11:11 AM
gretchen
here is how consistant the 29 and 31 have been
Burton is the only driver on tour to have completed every lap in all seven events thus far this season. Harvick had been tied with his teammate until last week, when he finished one lap down at Texas -- the only lap he hasn't completed all year. Bowyer has completed all but two laps, those coming at Las Vegas. and only engine going pooooof was mt jr last week i think
Posted by: aggie | Apr 13, 2008 1:10:43 AM
Congrats to Jimmie Johnson on his win to
night.
I was hoping Dale Jr. would win but it
didn't work out for him.
Graceann
Have faith in KK, he'll get his act together.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 13, 2008 1:04:21 AM
gretchen
lowes sells knee pads right?? as we type JJ should be ok and has then on 12 51 est lol
those guys just seem to have so much shit house luck, loved how CK was bsing JJ with the 20 second lead lol to get him to slow down
hey gretchen the 31 now 2 weeks and look at the come backs, 29 f ked up at the end RCR teams have been bullet proof iam suprizeed by the 29's team and 7 is coming on strong.......RCR's cars still the most consistant 3 cars same with that 99 unreal......did u hear how good 99 was last kyb said he felt that 99 wasnt even foot to the floor on some laps
that 99 had he not given away so many ppoints would be what 200 ahead in first......guys like the 31 have had to earn evry point, and 31 isnt giving away points
blows me away how those rcr cars qualify so so practice soso and in teh race just work their asses off to make better
jr is doing great consistant, nice to see junior not go backwards!!!
gotta admit i was pulling for the 8 as i tuned in with 20 to go
man are these dodge guys falling by the way side RP call trd ASAP quit fking around with dodge already, where is KIA??
Posted by: aggie | Apr 13, 2008 12:52:35 AM
If I had know JJ was gonna win, I would have went to bed a long time ago.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 13, 2008 12:29:20 AM
Well, it is 12:15 am EST. And all I know to say is:
aggie, k2 write it down--
If Puffs has not given Chad a BJ by now he needs to give him one tonight.
Posted by: Gretchen | Apr 13, 2008 12:16:44 AM
I don't know, KK needs to get his rear in gear. I put out alot of money to go to Dega to see him race so he better get it together or I might be like those All-State ladies and going running across the track to see what the problem is! One of the girls going is a huge Newman fan so is she will probably do the same thing towards Newmans pit.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 13, 2008 12:14:24 AM
Graceann,
I thought Budweiser's $$$ was gonna buy us some good equipment. What the heck? He didn't have a race winner or a top 5 car, but we might've squeaked out a top 10, just like last week...
I feel bad for Newman and Kurt Busch. Penske's stuff seems to be junk now, too.
Posted by: Kari | Apr 12, 2008 11:59:58 PM
Hey Kari, Doing ok. No we could not find the game. We have written to the team in hopes they have a copy they will sell us. He is due to go Iraq in the next couple of months so we would like to have this. I have checked you tube daily but have found nothing, maybe somebody will post it soon. I hope everything turned outok for DJ and the baby too. I know when they are small everything can keep you jumpy well I guess that continues forever doesn't it? My 16 yr old son got his permit this week and it has been a nerve ender.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 12, 2008 11:17:44 PM
Okay, where's DJ? Knowing baby had surgery and him not being around worries me...
Graceann, how you doing? Were you able to catch your nephew at the b-ball game the other day?
Posted by: Kari | Apr 12, 2008 10:23:01 PM
Fox needs some letters from the NASCAR fans, I think I heard them say several times it was broadcast on FX also so why did we have to miss the start of the race?
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 12, 2008 10:19:38 PM
WTF is this? Red Sox/Yankees override the Green Flag at Phoenix?
Was it the World Series? Nope! ARGHHGH!
Posted by: JWSmoke | Apr 12, 2008 9:06:57 PM
Kurt2
Thanks for the info. I agree, I don't see
T.S, J.G. and J.J. driving near as long as
some of the older drivers have done.
Diane
I think, Tony will be affiliated with
NASCAR when he decides to end his racing
career. This is my opinion, we will just
have to wait and see what the future holds.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 12, 2008 5:47:27 PM
K2 - Thanks for reinforcing my opinion. I've been trying to choose a young driver to support since I don't think Tony will drive much past his 40th birthday. Maybe not even until then. But I would like for him to stay in NASCAR in some capacity. Even with his hothead, I think he's good for the sport.
Posted by: Diane | Apr 12, 2008 3:38:30 PM
Diane,
Will comment on that, I read it and know a few more things.. there is a keyword in there : Ownership.... = down the line..
He isnt leaving JGR, Smoke retires there..
After that whom knows.. alot of people, (not you, nor Racefan) or many here can fathom how long you will see Smoke, JG, or JJ do in fact race.. you will not see them in here as long as a DJ, KP, or many...That have stayed too long..
When that happens you will see a change.. OVERALL in this sport
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 12, 2008 3:24:49 PM
Wayne,
I damn sure am not even gathering your point.. Sorry and not being mean.. Dont nor cant grasp it , with "the you dont Look the part of a dopehead"..
So to anwser the POTHEAD thing in you reference: CARL, Matt, Biff, or Hell Jamie ARE NOT POTHEADS
Its the "older" ones that are , were and still do..
Its BS to "assume", someone could look like a pothead..
Besides he DRUG factor, do a damn Breath test on race morning... Not sure Wayne whom you might be a fan of but you would be floored on that alone much less drugs......
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 12, 2008 3:10:51 PM
no my point was what does a dopehead look like?It can look like anyone,even,no especially nice,clean cut guys that people would say"no,not him;not in a million years".
Posted by: waynethemainbrain | Apr 12, 2008 2:14:54 PM
Diane
I read that article on msn.foxsports.com
also. Usually where there's smoke, there's
fire. Maybe, Kurt2 can give us an update.
Congrats to Kyle Busch on his win last
night in the Nationwide Series.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 12, 2008 1:02:34 PM
Diane
I read that article on msn.foxsports.com
also. Usually where there's smoke, there's
fire. Maybe, Kurt2 can give us an update.
Congrats to Kyle Busch on his win last
night in the Nationwide Series.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 12, 2008 1:00:53 PM
Grats to KY B for last night...and I'll forgive him for calling it the Interstate Batteries Monte Carlo in Victory Lane...was kinda funny!
Posted by: Fan#5 | Apr 12, 2008 12:38:18 PM
K2,
I agree, waynethemainbrain must be the one smoking the pipe.
There's an interesting rumor at this link. Please let me know if you've heard about it.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8027592/As-owner,-Stewart-would-be-a-great-garage-voice
Posted by: Diane | Apr 12, 2008 10:44:06 AM
Waynethe brain,
WTF was that.? You can now "look' like a pothead??? Thats a new one.
I guess next week I need to tell Kyle Petty he should cut his hair so he doesnt get "PERCIEVED"pothead. TOO funny
You were incorrect in the fact of Roush drivers being dopeheads..
I would have loved to see JM in the 30 car years ago.. He wouldnt have made it thru a full season at RCR, as Richard doesnt play the "lets run m mouth crap"
Congrats to Kyle B last night
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 12, 2008 10:34:19 AM
JWSmoke brought up an interesting point about being slooooowwwwww.Do we now assume if you are about to be lapped before 20 laps,it's not the car;the guy just smoked a fattie after breakfast.I think all Roush drivers probably get high,they look like dopeheads to me.Before you say no way,not Matt Kenseth,or Carl Edwards,think 'what's a dopehead really look like?Why do you think Edwards got mad at Kenseth last yr at Martinsville?Dude was jacked up.
Posted by: waynethemainbrain | Apr 12, 2008 5:10:41 AM
Kari
Good post
Test 'em all, random or not, I don't care.
Kari, you're right and I agree. If a driver
gets in a race car still drunk from the
night before he should get the same penalty
as a guy on drugs, there should be no
difference. Is NASCAR going to wait until
someone gets seriously injured or killed
before they decide to do mandatory drug
testing. All Brian France cares about is
lining his pockets with money. The drivers
should go on strike until NASCAR does
mandatory testing for drugs/alochol.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 11, 2008 8:08:31 PM
Test 'em all. Random or not, I don't care. Test' em. If there's a chance any of these guys are getting in their race cars still drunk from the night before, they should blow too. No tolerance. Nascar wants to be "no tolerance" on messing with the CoT--why not be no tolerance with the guys putting behind the wheel putting other guys at risk?
Re Mayfield: The drivers have jobs at the owners' pleasure. If the owner chooses to make a switch team-wise, that's his prerogative. Maybe Ray thought that since Jeremy had made the Chase with Kenny F. and Co., moving them over to Kasey would give the 9 the push it needed to get to the next level and that Jeremy was a good enough driver to be able to perform at the same level with a different team. Worked for one team, not for the other. Instead of stepping up his efforts, Mayfield got frustrated and ran his mouth. With an outstanding rookie season that resulted in a few of the best finishes in Nascar, and six wins two years later (more than Mayfield has in his entire career), why shouldn't Kahne have been Evernham's "Golden Boy"? I'm a Kahne fan but I don't have any illusions that he's championship material yet--but I think he's a good enough driver that he sure could be one day, and that's more than I can say for Mayfield.
Posted by: Kari | Apr 11, 2008 7:17:39 PM
Where I work we have testing, we also have to attend mandatory training seminars every year. One thing they pointed out this year was in any group of 100 employees, if they were all tested 10 to 12 would test positive.
They said a lot more, but the two main abuses are Alcohol and weed.
Posted by: DonB | Apr 11, 2008 7:04:43 PM
NASCAR FINDS ITSELF DEFENDING ANTI-DRUG
POLICY (THATSRACIN.COM)
The magazine article stating that Fike
competed in races while under the influence
of herion ignited a firestorm of concern
from NASCAR drivers Thursday.
Several drivers, led by a very outspoken
Kevin Harvick who once employed Fike as a
driver in the Nationwide series called for
NASCAR to adopt a random testing policy.
Other drivers chimed in as well.
Kasey Khane said he doesn't believe he
races with guys on drugs, but acknowledged
"There are certain people you wonder about
sometimes."
Harvick, Khane and Stewart all said,
Thursday they had never been given a
NASCAR drug test.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 11, 2008 6:49:20 PM
(anyway, he hasn't been the same since ray separated him and K. Francis.) When he had Kenny as a cc it seemed to be the best show of his career. Mayfield seemed to have history of switching teams. You cannot blame Kenny "being taking away" of ruining his career. That's too funny.
(really, has kahne, sadler, riggs, or carpentier done much better since mayfield was canned? kahne maybe, but that's because he is ray's golden boy.)2003 was the best Mayfield had run in his career. That's not saying to much considering he started in 94. Team GEM have a much better showing than that according to their stats.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 11, 2008 5:25:53 PM
barbg, rcr offered mayfield a ride in 2003 to drive no. 30 aol car, when his old contract with evernham expired. his mistake, signing with ray.
Posted by: keith12 | Apr 11, 2008 3:02:26 PM
Keith12 - Jeremy was lucky to even have a ride after throwing two of his previous employers under the bus in a very public way. Obviously discretion isn't part of his vocabulary. When did RCR offer him a job? I must've missed that news.
Posted by: Barb G | Apr 11, 2008 1:22:12 PM
As far as a drug testing policy goes it should be a "One And Done" type of thing. I realize that there is the occasional false positive and if a driver tests positive they then need to do another test and submit it to a different lab. If the results are then deemed positive then they are gone for life. I dont care if it is a driver I disdain or one I buy their diecast for my collection. This isnt like being f'ed up working in a fast food joint. No wonder they always forget the fries, lol. They can kill other drivers or over the wall guys and that is not acceptible in any manner, shape or form. NASCAR needs to do this now before someone is hurt seriously or killed. Brian France needs to think about the safety of the sport and NOT how many more ways he can pad his wallet. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Scott | Apr 11, 2008 12:11:00 PM
I don't know who is doing the drugs or who is not, don't know enough about their habits to make a judgement. I do believe NASCAR should test and if teir caught toss them. Even if their top drivers, yes even if its KK. I would hope its not but if it is out he goes.
Posted by: Graceann | Apr 11, 2008 11:48:58 AM
K2 - I'm glad Mayfield is gone. It doesn't seem he can get along with anyone. Johnny Sauter got the 70 car qualified this week. Maybe he'll get to stay in the car for a while. Or is there a better driver who is available right now?
Posted by: Diane | Apr 11, 2008 11:48:04 AM
Kathy you nailed it on the fact "someones going to have to get hurt or die" before NASCAR has "time" to do anything..
Sad but true..
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 11, 2008 11:26:30 AM
actually I like Kurt B. am one of the few. don't care for his little bro, but kurt's alright. he's one of the top five or six drivers in the garage.
i like jeremy too. he ran his mouth and admitted fault with the penske situation. he said if he could go back he'd do things differently. he said his best days were with the 12. now, he didn't handle the ray e. situation that great, but ray e. is no saint, and brought alot of it on himself. ray e. has a history of pulling the rug out under his employees. the gillets are saving that organization from the ruins that ray e. led them too.
jeremy should have went to rcr in 2003 instead of resignign with ray e. you're right, richard would have set him straight. he sure did with kevin and tried to with robby gordon. but i think jeremy's career in cup has run its course. he'll be back int he trucks with the other former cuppers.
Posted by: keith12 | Apr 11, 2008 11:13:09 AM
WAIT a minute JJM to Yota!!?? I DON'T NEED HIM EITHER
Posted by: Fan#5 | Apr 11, 2008 11:11:33 AM
Keith12,
Since you chose to go there with me,, here. Please enlighten me is NASCAR a "fan friendly sport?or do you need to win and produce?
The way I see it many(evidently you too dont like Kurt B) which is fine. But last I checked he won the Championship in 2004.. Let me google and see if Jeremey ever won it? That was fast UH NO>
Jermey has blamed Roger Penske, Ray, Erin,hell even his dogs proably for his lack of success.
If he is so talented go back to Busch and prove it, then heed one more lesson in life."You dont talk crap , slam car owners (2 to date) and expect to get a quality ride in the sport.
I can see him driving for say RCR, Richard would have smacked his A** for the attacks.
Plus lets revist your Ray E thing: JM knew he was leaving and going to Yota, then and only then after getting out in the garage 2 weeks AFTER he signed decided to tell Ray...
Jermey screwed himself with his mouth and attitude in the CUP garage.. You dont rebound from slamming 2 owners and NEVER having the balls to aldmit it was in fact you as well
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 11, 2008 11:01:27 AM
What's with the hating on Mayfield? the guy has driven crap cars since evernham screwed him. evernham was smart in selling majority ownership, he was an awful car owner.
mayfield was one of the fan friendliest drivers around, much friendlier that Kurt Busch, Kurt 2. anyway, he hasn't been the same since ray separated him and K. Francis.
really, has kahne, sadler, riggs, or carpentier done much better since mayfield was canned? kahne maybe, but that's because he is ray's golden boy.
Posted by: keith12 | Apr 11, 2008 10:41:38 AM
Did you ladies who are KK fans know that he had an accident in Texas? Here's a report from Fox Sports:
Gillett Evernham Motorsports driver Kasey Kahne had a bad day April 3.
First he wrecked his Nationwide Series car during practice at Texas Motor Speedway. But that wasn't the only car that he wrecked that day.
A few hours later, Kahne had another accident in a Dodge Durango he leased from a local Dodge dealership.
According to police reports, Kahne ran into the back of a car driven by a 17-year-old woman as traffic slowed on Highway 114 near the track. No one was injured and neither driver was charged in the accident. Both vehicles had to be towed away from the scene.
Posted by: Diane | Apr 11, 2008 10:35:18 AM
Kurt said "You would be floored and I will leave it there with whom would test postive. 2 drivers now and one from a few back would ahve. Plus lets see a CC would as well.."
Based on appearance, Paul Menard looks like a pothead, even though I like the guy. Kahne testing positive wouldn't surprise me either. He was a buddy of TWalker, and he is always shaking uncontrollably. But that is assumpion talking.
25 pts in more than fair for height penalties. If they threw a 100 pt penalty at Newman for that, that would be ridiculous. B
Posted by: Keith12 | Apr 11, 2008 10:29:22 AM
In all this and iam not fan of KH but respect him and delana on their org. i've heard about KH being a good guy from k2, and from what i have seen of him speaking out and standing up for the drivers I really respect the guy now
plus i like the subtle SHOT he took at jg by saying hey iam not jg so i guess they dont take what i say seriously......... and in all this you have admire rcr and rc for letting their drivers speak up and supporting their fellow drivers
that is one knock on jg and if sr was such an influence on him why he don’t use his star power to stand for the guys is ?????? to me
i guess when RCR has squeaky clean cars and dont cheat u dont have to be scared of retaliation in the inspection process!!
Posted by: aggie | Apr 11, 2008 9:58:23 AM
Since then it fell on deaf ears and nothing has been done..
Unfortunately I think that nothing will be done until someone gets killed because of it and that's pretty sad when they CAN prevent it, but won't.
Posted by: Kathy | Apr 11, 2008 9:53:52 AM
A great example of NASCARS thoughts ona redid drug policy begins with Harvick and Jeff B talking to them last year... Since then it fell on deaf ears and nothing has been done..
But NASCAR will never put up or shut up on this:)
Posted by: Kurt2 | Apr 11, 2008 9:43:07 AM
earnhardt nation
THERE SHOULD BE MANDATORY DRUG TESTING IN
NASCAR. Peoples lives are at stake on those
tracks, that's reason enough to test.
I agree with you as others on here have
stated the same thing. What's going to
happen if a driver is killed or seriously
injured by another driver who is on drugs?
The pit crews are also in danger. Kurt2
be extra careful.
Strecklinfan82
Great post, you said it all.
Kathy
Good job on your post, you covered a lot
subjects.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 11, 2008 1:10:16 AM
Kathy
I read this some where on the internet
regarding the Newman penalty.
The right rear quarter panel height did not
meet the required specification; it was to
high in post-race inspection. As a result of
this, Newman and Penske have been penalized
25 driver and 25 owner points. R.M., cc was
fined $25,000 and placed on probation until
Dec. 32st.
Posted by: Race Fan | Apr 11, 2008 12:51:05 AM
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