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May 04, 2008
Bowyer wins in Richmond - What a race!
Last season people thought Bowyer lucked into The Chase or it was just fluke, but whether you like him or not, he's there when it counts, including last nights Richmond race. Bowyer slipped by during the Earnhardt Jr./Busch incident to take the lead and won in a green-white-checkered finish.
Everyone thought that the hometown boy, Hamlin, was going to win, but as any race fan knows anything can and usually does happen. Hamlin had a tire going down and instead of pitting to get it fixed, it eventually went flat bringing out the caution, I'm sure the way they planned. The only problem is that Hamlin stopped on the track to bring out the caution (big no no - you can't stop on the track to bring out the caution), when he could have limped around and NASCAR black flagged him for two laps.
With Hamlin out of the way, that left Earnhardt Jr. and Kyle Busch in the first and second position and you knew they were going to fight hard for the win. That's also when it got real loud around here. Last night was not the night to be near any Jr. fan after the incident with Busch.
My take on the incident was that it was just a racing deal, both were racing hard for the lead. To listen to some Jr. fans, Kyle did it on purpose, others say Kyle should have backed off if he got loose. In my opinion, it looked like both were getting loose racing side by side and that's what led to the wreck. Saying a driver should have backed off when going for the lead and the win is a bit ridiculous, if drivers did that, races would be exciting because there would be no fighting for the lead.
While I changed the channel after the race, to avoid any further noisy reactions to the interviews, I read about Jr.'s post-race interview and it sounded like he handled it with class. Unless the little snippet I read was wrong, Jr. basically said he didn't see the replay yet and that he was told Kyle got loose, although he was clearly disappointed. Maybe some of his fans should take a hint.
The big wreck happened on lap 229 and what a wreck it was. Carpentier car was hit multiple times after hitting the inside wall, luckily him and all the others in the wreck were unhurt. They brought out the red flag to clean up the mess. With the hits Carpentier took, it shows that NASCAR has come a long way in the safety of the cars where he was unhurt with all the vicious hits he took.
While there were others individual and two car wrecks, the other mentionable one was the Mears/Waltrip incident. While it appeared to be a typical short track incident, Waltrip didn't seem to see it that way. After the wreck, when the cars should just drive to pit road after the incident, Waltrip had a different idea. He was obviously pissed and accelerated and drove Mears for a little bit before going off into the pits. That was enough to get NASCARS attention, they parked him for the rest of the race. I realize he was mad and thought it was all Mears' fault, but his reaction was childish and dangerous.
Congrats again to Bowyer.
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Kyle was being stupid and it cost him a shot at the race. personally im sick of dw eing a kb apologist. those announcers knew full where noone got loose on that turn.
props to jr for not whining about kyle wrecking him like kyle did when jr knocked him out of a race.
someone mentioned team rules? who created the caution that aloowed kb to get behind jr in the first place? oh wait it was teammate denny hamlin. Its funny "team orders" arrived and left with kyle busch at hendrick
meanwhile kurt2 we have at least three examples this season of team orders at gibbs yet kurt2 seems oblivious to it
rewind to talledega.
In case you guys were sleeping the last 8 years. gordon always has bitched about jr in plate races. Gordon was most upset when he complained about jr pushing him to the front. jr replied i guess i wont push him to the front anymore.
fact is gordon hesitated and didnt go with jr then got mad when jr passed him. lesson learned is gordon is crybaby ... surprise!
btw Brian Vickers was always about teamwork. outside of jr/jj wreck he helped gordon and johnson at his own expense many times. Where did that get him ?
Why isnt jr going to win six races? Hendrick is not ahead of everyone else. they have all caught up this year. Jimmy Johnson can kiss another championship goodbye cause he has always relied on superior equipment to get the job done
Posted by: Kevin | May 7, 2008 12:10:00 PM
j2
Doesn't bode well for the CUP's marquee sponsor
i read where some german telco is wanting to buy them??
i just dont like german and usa companies in bed together, look at dodge and benz?? marriage made in merger hell!! mind you germans love sports and in europe cell phone co's are all over sports team like vodaphone ect
Posted by: aggie | May 6, 2008 10:56:28 AM
J2...I agree with your thoughts on the sport always needing a good rival or bad boy to stir the pot,because the racing can get boring at times.
JG and TS did have a confrontation.A while back at a road course,not sure which one,but it was a very good heated cussing fest.I think TS roughed him up a bit and JG confronted him.Good stuff........
Posted by: DJ | May 6, 2008 10:39:48 AM
Jon
As I said before he can win a championship without a win, but it is easier with a couple for good measure.
i wanna belive you cause the 07 or 31 might have use the same stategy, i just hate when u get mathematics involved and hey i love numbers, just a tuff way to do it
Jon i feel mostly for Jr and media frenzyyy on him, iam glad he got his foot right back into it with his speeds at lowes yesterday
k2
Lighter note:
glad to see a wonderful performance by the 26, 42, and the 48...
fans used their gps to find those guys back there LOL
an unreal guy at richmond was JG started what?? down a lap and came thru for 9th.....luck skill what ever u wanana call it great run by jg
ganne
kk come on where are the dodge comercials
this was good with KK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvFk-NQbLiE&feature=related
Posted by: aggie | May 6, 2008 10:03:14 AM
Like Kyle or despise him, others have said that this is what NASCAR needs is a Bad Boy who can race with the big dogs. Creates drama which gets attention, draws in the crowds. Used to be the tension was between the JN and Jeff G but now since Junior's gone to HMS, sorta subsided. You know it has when Gretchen hopes good things for JJ. I've said it before, the JN herd will eventually be on the HMS wagon.
I've always wanted the Tony S vs Jeff G confrontation, on the track of course, which would have pitted two great drivers against each other, bumping, contesting for the win. Hasn't happened yet.
My analysis: Rick did the sport great by releasing him which apparently has really awoken the competitive nature in Kyle. Whatever you do Kyle, don't change, the sport needs that passionating and emotionating, especially when you're doing it for the win which of late has been the norm for you.
Different topic, Sprint is considering dumping their 2005 30billion dollar investment in NEXTEL. Ain't working. NEXTEL is losing subscribers faster'n ever and is a drag on Sprint's revenues. Doesn't bode well for the CUP's marquee sponsor.
Posted by: Jon2 | May 6, 2008 9:48:15 AM
why wasn't Denny(the crybaby)Hamlin docked 25 points for causing a caution,i remember that jr was docked for that a few yrs ago.as for the shrub he's an arrogant ass,he thinks he's the best out there,there's a difference from being good and being great and he's far from it.but as long as DW and the rest of the fox broadcaster kiss his ass and make him out to be immortal like he's a god to racing nothing will change!if DW had his way he keep the cameras on the little arrogant basturd for 400 laps each week.i can't wait till we are done with racing on fox and there stupid digger cam,and finally stop hearing DW saying he comes rowdy,here comes the wild one,Rick Hendrick made the right decision in kicking that arrogant shrubb to the curb,the way i see it is Gibbs got an ass and Hendrick got class.i was very proud how jr handled himself,unlike the interview with denny,he looked like he was going to cry,LOL!i'm still laughing when i think of that stupified look on his face that was priceless!
Posted by: matt | May 6, 2008 7:12:18 AM
Aggie: I knew you would come around to my way of thinking. Just don't jinx KK and the 9 team.
Posted by: Graceann | May 6, 2008 7:06:12 AM
Aggie,
As long as Jr doesn't develop the win at all cost mentality like a few drivers have I will be happy with him continuing to seek out that first win with the #88 team. As I said before he can win a championship without a win, but it is easier with a couple for good measure. He has come close to winning on several occasions and with the new team it is obvious that the wins will come.
Posted by: Jon | May 6, 2008 6:02:52 AM
k2
here are 2 guys in deep trouble to make the chase
after three finishes of 38th or worse in a row, you can put a fork in Kenseth’s season. He’s sitting 22nd in points.
Hey Matt, prove me wrong, will you?
The same can be said about Kurt Busch, who sits 24th in points.
ganne OKOK i'll cave in your guy kandy kahne with 3-4 more finshes like saturday nite and he should be in top 12 for a while......him and KF are starting to click, thank god!!
dj
yeah its harder to recover as u get older i find
it was calm here the st paddys day brings out more real drinkers, teh irish can drink!! its a good month may 5, our vic day and your memorial day so 3 long weekends :)
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 11:34:59 PM
f5
probablytelling cm to take that 55 out lol
or same place that guys wife was last week probably yakking on a cell phone or watching the race lol
fr see the lap times too stout rcr motors at lowes today
Earnhardt Jr. recorded a fastest lap of 182.352 mph Richard Childress Racing's Jeff Burton was the second fastest driver with a lap of 180.596 mph, followed by Haas CNC Racing's Brad Keselowski, RCR's Kevin Harvick 4th,
good to se junior get right back into and forget about the bs from sat nite......these next 8 and especially first 3 races are going to be a real GUT check time for that 88 team
f5 were with craven when he was on a roll??
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 11:17:18 PM
aggie WHERE was CM's spotter????!!!...I'm not trying to defend MW...But good God it happen right below them!...I agree'd with race control to park the #55
Posted by: Fan #5 | May 5, 2008 10:29:44 PM
k2
that was funny seeing mw push cm down the track and mw tires smoking and cm back wheels locked up, cm must have thought what is this idot doing.......mw asking for write in votes ok mw your turn to put down the crack pipe now
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 10:06:13 PM
No Cinco de May for me Agg.Still feeling rough from the weekend at the Rock and had a softball game tonite.Wore out.....
K2,got your mail.All is fine.
G,ready for Darlington as well,but I may be the DD as I need a break from the plethera of adult contents.Plus Charlotte in 3 weeks.
K2,tough spot for you with the call on the debacle with the 18 and 88.They will sort it out,one way or the other.That what makes the sport inetresting because I thought the race was boring untill all that last few laps deal.Should be interesting at D'ton with all the slipping and sliding on a newly paved track!Wonder who will get blamed for causing chaos this week?
Posted by: DJ | May 5, 2008 9:55:06 PM
so...
is joey logano a fairly normal human being, or another wacked out wheelman supastaaar with sociopathic characteristics ??
just wonderin' what the season after may, will hold for us nascar fans.
Posted by: exile | May 5, 2008 9:15:40 PM
Gretch,
You know I respect you, but whom the Fuck is Mr Rogers on here????????
" If I was Nascar they need to park 18 and 11 for being stupid and having no class. The pee-wee herman look like Busch.
Posted by: Eddie Robertson | May 5, 2008 7:58:31 PM"
Yeah Eddie hold your breath on this please.. All the time it park this one park that one.Lets rewind.CUP isnt going to park a car..SPONSOR money..
BTW Exile JGR has tested all the drivers.. They are clean as a FYI...
Please as much as I like Kyle B, Kurt , Jr and all..
Lets not really turn this into who is hot, and looks like a FS.. Simply placed , being a man I cant see it myself but that is null and void...
Thus far engine plants this year are JGR and RCR, no contest thus far
Posted by: Kurt2 | May 5, 2008 8:22:52 PM
I am tried Kyle Busch and Hamlin this year they drive like nuts. Kyle needs to learn about to care for other drivers. When he won in Atlanta he was bumping Dale Jarret on the last lap for no reason. I belive that he has took over Tony Stewart spot at Gibbs for the crazy driver. Now Hamlin the baby of Gibbs gets lucky at Martinsville after Nascar would not draw the caution flag after someone spun and at richmond staying on the track after he knew the tire was flat talking about being spoil because Dale Jr was ROB BIG TIME. If I was Nascar they need to park 18 and 11 for being stupid and having no class. The pee-wee herman look like Busch.
Posted by: Eddie Robertson | May 5, 2008 7:58:31 PM
"I guess I am jaded, because if its the 88 the world gets into a uproar"
not really.
it's just another week we have to be in ky's world.
ky's another drama queen like the ghetto biotchs on springer.
after every race, ky, win or loose has to say some negative remark about another driver or pit guy to get the media time.
everybody else is insane or drunk or amped up or a girl or some other 8th grade shit.
he's a another problem child.
has anyone suggested drug testing the little FS tweaker??
Posted by: exile | May 5, 2008 7:48:24 PM
gretchen sorrrrrry
23 years old
OK get this its like kharma lol NO BS here are their numbers
48 Danny Briere
18 Mike Richards , Kenora, ON, CAN just down the road coottage country
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 6:00:00 PM
aggie...whatever...I'll take RCR's powerplants any day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Kyz1WO00k
Posted by: Fan #5 | May 5, 2008 5:54:25 PM
gretchen
get on the flyers band wagon ok or dallas
richards on philly watch him and briere 2 to watch..richards is 23
when do we get on the nba?? celtics all the way KG and crew, gonna sweep them lakers in 4, just gonna tune up on lebron in 4 also
gretchen i thought about clemons for while, mmmmmmm 2 seconds and wow
that song came to my mind by war spill that wine
I stood high by the mountain tops
Naked to the world
In front of
Every kind of girl
There was long one's tall ones, short ones, brown ones,
Black ones, round ones, big ones, crazy ones
Out of the middle, came a lady/kid lol
She whispered in my ear
Something crazy
its me mindy mcready that u want rodger so what if iam only 15
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 5:31:50 PM
It happens gAnne, but it makes me no less pissed with Kyle Douche. LMAO!!
Darlington should be a good race. Been waiting on that one too.
Posted by: gretchen | May 5, 2008 5:13:45 PM
LOL!! aggie you should have heard me Saturday night....NOT a pretty sight at my house. I THINK that was the night the Penguins won too, maybe not hell I don't know. I was tore up and pi$$ed off.
It's 5:09 pm EST and I am off to the hacienda to see wtf MW and crew have to say....lol!!!
And did the Penguins even win or not? LOL!
Posted by: gretchen | May 5, 2008 5:10:34 PM
Guys, you may kick me off of here after this but I have to post this to be fair. I will state this first thought. I am KK fan first an foremost, not KB or Jr. but think back last season to the Kansas race Jr. and KB. You can You Tube it if you don't remember. I don't think it caused a big uproar but was passed as just racing.
Posted by: Graceann | May 5, 2008 5:07:06 PM
k2
10 to go @ RIR and you need a "cheerleader"?
jaded lol no kidding, BIASED AND PAYOLA. i think your working on getting a job as kyb'S new PR director!!
k2 ok everyone is different, i know myself id say stf up and id want dead silence and let me concentrate on making this cot as wide as possible and ask the spotter for the intervals times between myself and the 18 and lap count down
iam like what’s jr thinking here or what does he want ?????? Something like ned calling dj's final lap against sr?? or dw calling mikey 500 win??
when i heard he asked for a cheerleader iam like ok this dude is reading our blog and wants mindy mcready lol OR a UNC cheerleader for a lap dance after the race??
iam like f==k-man concentrate cause the 18-07 are going to be all over u like bad cologne and when 18 does i hope he dont take you in the wall
also k2
we have to hear each week by the Media....
no kidding enough of this 88 drought shit its worse than y2k was , or micheal jackson doing kids
iam reading some blog and the guy who I like and respect has this for his opening line on the race
Two years. 731 days. 17,500 hours.
And counting.
Iam like TOM bowles /si give JR a break already, its like the media just want to nail jr to cross with 12 inch railway spikes and leave him out there for another
Two years. 731 days. 17,500 hours.
And counting.
The media I read but some of these guys like f off already, their worse than whores at a shriners convention!!
gretchen
Kyle placed himself in my $hit house with Hamlin and Mayfield during the post race interview.
mayfield mayfield that low?? eh??
and Kyle Douche and mindy mcready marriage made in heaven lol
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 4:48:15 PM
I guess Dennis Terry said it best on Lug Nutz:
"Ironically, just days after our blog finally figures out how to identify the characteristics ofa truly great driver, Kyle Busch again proves why he is the class of the field when it comes to talent and classless when it comes to integrity and character. "
DT
I still say it wasn't that Kyle "wrecked" him per se. It WAS a product of Kyle's driving style. And Junior is god knows not the only driver to have ever suffered the wrath of Kyle Busch's driving style. And damn sure won't be the last.
As far as Junior's interview goes. He's always going both ways. Remember the "cars being taken out of DEI" fiasco? In one breath he's "not worried about it" and in the next he's " a little hurt by it". LOL
I think he was trying- this weekend- to NOT speak out of pure pissed off emotion, but trying to say the right thing. But they're race car drivers, they get emotional.
And regardless of Junior's two sided comments, they by FAR outclassed Kyle Douche's ( I just borrowed that from a lady on LUG NUTZ LOL) comments. Kyle needs to go have dinner with Kurt and get some "advice" from the man who toted a shiner courtesy of Mr. Excitement.
Attitude takes you a long way. (That would be why I am stuck in the mud- LMAO!!)
Kyle placed himself in my $hit house with Hamlin and Mayfield during the post race interview.
Posted by: Gretchen | May 5, 2008 4:26:03 PM
k2
JGR, in all honesty at this point Mark Cronquist is the Engine Builder of the year
yes and no on that one K2, you probably work there and get paid to say that LOL
iam a fan of his shop/motors same with randy when he alive and before that Ernie E..... ok, but that rcr engine shop has also been unreal!!!and holding its own to TRD, RCR has had ????? engine failure?? none NADA i think
i dont think guys like 20 can do their here kitty kitty bs to teh rcr cars
some great tracks coming up where rcr's engine shop can shine and the 07 is ready same with the 29 as the 29 are big race and $$$$ team and their hot now!!
200 AT DARLINGTON IS GOING TO SCARE SOME GUYS! and it wont be the 07........DEPEND SALES SHOULD BE UP THAT WEEKEND AT WALGREENS
BRING BACK THE SOUTHERN 500!!!
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 4:11:36 PM
Never stated Kyle B was or ever could be Sr.. Never have never will.
Since we are now in a "free for all", no one has yet to explain Jr's interview? All can slam Kyle for his, but can he make his mind up..
"I was raced hard and was it was okay, then.BOOM>>>>" I got wrecked"
Hello? Which way was it
Hell if he cant figure it out how can we?
10 to go @ RIR and you need a "cheerleader"?
Kyle isnt perfect, wont be and really doesnt care, he was racing to win, not "follow the 88" and help him with the "drought" we have to hear eeach week by the Media....
Its okay cause its Jr now, but lets take Sr out of the mix..
Anyone ever see David P, Richard P, Buddy B, Cale Y, Tim R.. shit that list could go on ever "race" someone and not have issues????
I guess I am jaded, because if its the 88 the world gets into a uproar.When this type of racing for a win has happened since the birth of this sport and always will
Posted by: Kurt2 | May 5, 2008 4:00:55 PM
Good job at RIR by Bowyer, Martin, Stewart, Truex, Newman, Harvick & Burton. And I must admit J. Gordon & his team had a great race. Wow - all 3 RCR cars in top 5 in points.
It's so sad abot the 10,000 or more who have died in Myanmar from that terrible cyclone.
You guys in North Carolina and us Hoosiers have something in common - election day is tomorrow. Don't forget to vote.
Posted by: Diane | May 5, 2008 3:23:14 PM
dj
I'm still hurting!
DJ its cinquo de maio hurry up and recover OK
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 2:45:16 PM
Blood pressure is lower now...
BIG CONGRATS to the #8 and the #1 cars for their top 5's for the DEI org!!!!
I am starting to think that the 8 car will win before the 88 does....damn
Posted by: Gretchen | May 5, 2008 1:31:22 PM
Way. To. Go. Gretchen! A-fricken-men!
Posted by: Barb G | May 5, 2008 1:25:25 PM
Ms G
No wonder TS wants to leave. I'd be over those two fuck sticks by now as well.
good point i never looked at that way TS is a lil older and yeah who needs those 2 yahoos
Peter
yeah on tv u get whole different angle and i tend to agree with your observation.....kyb could have taken him out way before then ...like u said gretchen its KYB and he is not going to back off and wait till he has a clean pass
k2
as you say it??
did the 11 loose the race on a bad pit call of not coming in for tires.......
cowboy
good choice of driver, clint is the most matuer and complete driver out there after being in cup what 3 years??
what another saying in racing id rather be lucky than fast
blows me away cb has just 2 wins......that 07 team is ready to get on a roll
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 1:00:36 PM
Congrats, to Clint. Martin, Truex, Newman, and Kahne also had good results. Sorrenson had a goog night, too. It looks like Donnie will be a help, to Reed.
The Junior/Shrub deal was just hard-nose racing. I'm not a fan of either. But, Kyle doesn't have an ounce of class in his whole body. K2, I will admit that I will never like the Busch brothers, no matter how many races they win. It's an attitude thing, for me. Kind of like Montoya.
I don't remember DW commenting on Mikey's "brainfart."
Another good run, for Kvapil. He's quietly moved into the top-20, in points. Gilliland had a great run going, until the "big one." He moved from 40th to 14th, before the crash. He kind of reminds me of Burton, qualifying in the back and working his way through the field, during the race.
Posted by: dave | May 5, 2008 12:48:35 PM
I was at the race sitting right in the middle of turns three and four and watched the whole thing coming down the back stretch and into the corner. KB had been trying to pass JR before that and JR was able to hold him off and pull back ahead. But Busch got a good run coming down the backstretch and got good position underneath. Coming into the corner both guys were driving their butt off but it looked obvious KB was going to complete the pass. Looked to me and the rest of the folks in my rown that JR tried to squeeze him a little to break his momemntum. Busch held his line and they touched and that was that. It was the kind of hard racing I pay my money to go see and would have respected whatever two drivers were involved for the desire and effort they both showed. If you are not going to drive that hard for the win with two and a half laps left in the race, you need to give your seat to someone else.
Posted by: Peter | May 5, 2008 12:33:16 PM
K2....I'm alive dude,but I partook too much Saturday at the ROCK.We had a blast but I'm still hurting!Got stories of craziness.......
Hillenberg put on a good show.The racing was good,you just had to look all over the track to find it,cause the 25 was hooked up.I see Poole is talking out of both sides of his mouth again.It's like he couldn't wait to print what he percieved as negatives after trying to be nice.The track looked good,the show was good.Racing is back at the Rock and even though I was disappointed with the crowd,Andy suceeded bringing racing back and it will work out.
Racing deal in my book with the 18 and 88.Thing is Kyle and Wallace had a racing deal as well Friday nite,and based on his reaction after that and based on Jr's comments who actually is a kid?He is acting like a arrogant punk and while I was impressed with his driving skill,the mouth and attitude is taking away from my overall perception of him.He is biting off more than he can chew and if he punts the wrong someone or decides to get in the face of the wrong someone,he may get what his bro got back in the day.JMO.Reminds me of Ernie Irvan back in the day as he had alot of damage control to do after several on track deals.He realized it,manned up and apologized to all the drivers and his career took off........
Posted by: DJ | May 5, 2008 12:30:24 PM
I was first & foremost a Jarrett fan 'til he retired. Now as a fan of CB I am amazed at how under the radar he is. When he finished second @ Phoenix He didn't even get interviewed by FOX. Now maybe he can get some pub. Without Kyle driving the old Biffle Missle style. CB doesn't go to victory lane.
We'll take that bit of luck.
"Luck is what you have left over after you give 100 percent."
Langston Coleman author
Posted by: cowboy | May 5, 2008 12:13:57 PM
Gretchen - I just fainted!! LOL.
Posted by: Diane | May 5, 2008 11:17:02 AM
And another thing.
The post race interview with the punk. THAT was the Kyle that sooooo many people hate. That arrogant ass 'tude.
And f***ing don't tell me it's because he is so young. The cocksucker has been in Cup for what 5 years now? Classless. Like Hamlin.
No wonder TS wants to leave. I'd be over those two fuck sticks by now as well.
Y'all heard it here first. IF IT COMES DOWN TO THE 18 car or the 11 car, and the 48 is there. I AM WITH THE 48!! Y'ALL HEARD IT HERE LIVE ON KATHY'S PIT STOP!!! LMFAO!!!
Posted by: Gretchen | May 5, 2008 10:41:53 AM
Good Morning sewing circle......
On Michael Waltrip.....he needs to resume his jogging career and put down the sauce. It's now f***ing with his brain.
Hamlin.....acted like the total piece of $hit he is. Expected no different of him.
And on the 18 and the 88.................
I will not go so far as to say that Kyle wrecked him. I din't see it that way at all. That wreck was simply the result of Kyle Busch's driving style. Like so many other wrecks around and because of, Kyle Busch. He drives loose, sideways, and all over the place. Which on one hand is cool, and on other stinks- ask Jamie McMurray- after the ALMOST big one at Dega last weekend. The 31 car or the 8 car is behind the 88 at the end, the 88 wins. But we all know that is not the 18's "style". He is not a "classy" driver in the mold of Mark Martin or Jeff Burton.
In addition, going through that turn, Kyle had PLENTY of room to move down, and plenty of ability. All of the people that talk all about how he is such a good driver KNOW that the punk could have easily avoided that situation. But that is not Kyle Busch. You KNEW the S.O.B. was going to run in there hard and get loose and slide up, because THAT IS HOW THE F****R RACES. Week in and week out.
And off subject, sort of. I am SOOOOOO mother f***ing sick of EVERYONE using Dale Earnhardt Sr. as the compass by which we, as a fanbase, decide who's driving style is "too reckless" or whether it is acceptable to spin someone intentionally. Or blah, blah, blah. Even the f***ing journalists do it. They always fall back on Senior when discussing a driver that is having "issues" regarding his style.
Kyle Busch is no fucking Dale Earnhardt Sr. By no means.
Nor is Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Posted by: Gretchen | May 5, 2008 10:33:55 AM
I need Home Depot to stay with Tony because we LIVE at that place and they need to sponsor a driver I like! (Ha ha--because it's all about me.) ;)
I haven't been a Bowyer fan but he is proving himself to be a super smart racer and definitely growing on me--plus he's a Jayhawker so that doesn't hurt.
I like Kyle Busch and I think the deal with Junior really was just racing. However, most of the drivers (or at least the ones I root for) seem to love the hard side-by-side racing lap after lap and often manage to do it without wrecking each other--when they're interviewed after the race, they say how FUN it was to race like that. The winner knows he truly earned the win and the 2nd place guy knows he did everything he could to use his skills and instincts and car control to get the win for himself. How meaningful is a win if you could only get it by wrecking the guy in P1?
That said, I pretty much don't trust Kyle Busch to race hard and clean side-by-side for the win. It seems he either wrecks the other guy or wrecks himself and all the stellar car control he shows throughout the other parts of the race go right out the window when it gets to the end. He might be fun to watch but I don't yet have any respect for him.
Denny Hamlin was the class of the field until his crappy move at the end. I knew I strongly disliked him for a reason and he reminded me of that Saturday night.
Posted by: Kari | May 5, 2008 10:31:47 AM
ex pat
JR overdrove the corners to begin with and let KB catch him.
well said and for the 07 sure it looked like the win was handed to him BUT here are some of the 07 numbers lately
At some point, we are going to stop underrating or overlooking the third Childress driver. Since Texas, Bowyer has started 25th and finished 10th, started 24th and finished second, and started 41st and finished ninth. The man can do some driving and races every body clean!
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 9:33:21 AM
Graceann - Great post. I can't imagine the pressure Jr. is under trying to live up to his Dad's standards. I've never thought of it that way. I've always thought how lucky he is. But I'm beginning to think he's not lucky at all.
Posted by: Diane | May 5, 2008 9:04:09 AM
Congrats to the 07 team! Right place at the right time.
Too bad for the 11 guys, dominated the race but didn't get the finish to show for it.
The Rowdy/JR incident was just hard short track racing. Both could have given each other a bit more room but thats not what you do when you're going for the win. JR overdrove the corners to begin with and let KB catch him.
Also Kudos to the 8 team. Strong run all night!
Posted by: NC Expat in Hong Kong | May 5, 2008 5:33:21 AM
K2
Tony going to Haas, majority ownership.
I assume Home Depot will follow Tony,
right or wrong.
Any news on Ryan Newman? Will he stay with
Penske or make a move also?
Posted by: Race Fan | May 5, 2008 12:40:59 AM
despain = another veiwer rating media talkin' head.
anyway, ol' dave's brain has to be mush spending 2 hours a week with mikey in the same room.
mikey on tv monday night...
"let me tell the fans how it really is since they don't really understand anything."
KMA mikey.
Posted by: exile | May 5, 2008 12:34:42 AM
k2
Tony to Hass, MAJORITY OWNERSHIP. ok and the depot?? home depot that is
where is office depot going>> or going out
Truex is the optional one.. 3rd Penske car or DEI.. probably the 3rd car at penske better of with the captain than with Teresa in the long run imo.
ok your mum on that 4th rcr car/driver lol
cherios with???????? come on iam having a jr brain fart here who is available??
Posted by: aggie | May 5, 2008 12:09:38 AM
k2
Oops, Aggie since DEI was closing damn if they didnt have a great night..HUMM scary:)
yeah u gotta feel good for the gasman and those guys, right now at rfr MM would not be in 20th like the 17 is
yeah did u catch the numbers off that pool despain read off lol 90plus % said what it was jr fault lol
if guys like SW are worried about booing come on get real
how many times have we or i said on here how hard it is to live in Jr shoes .........brutal way to live in hios shoes..........these next 8 races and he dont win one going to dega unreal pressssure
k2 your a u tube aholic
here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h2R3iXnNaF8&feature=related
Posted by: aggie | May 4, 2008 11:58:36 PM
Kyle Busch: Dangerous at any speed
http://weblogs.cw2.com/sports/nascar/blog/2008/05/kyle_busch_dangerous_at_any_sp.html
"But the wins have routinely come as the result of reckless driving.
Now, I'm not talking calculated agression, as we used to see practiced by Dale Earnhardt.
Like him or not, you had to know "Big E" knew exactly what he was doing, and got the finishes he wanted by driving the way he did."
ok, k2...
it's hard to put into words. but, i'll try.
i didn't know Sr. i never even met Sr.
i did always admire Sr. and still do.
here's my take on the whole ky is the next... no, he's right now THE Dale Sr. bullshit media hype crap.
if you were in the lead with 2 laps left he would push you out of the way to win.
that's fine with me.
the deal with lil busch is at any time during a race truckin alone at 195, if ky is close, the chance is 80-20 he will lose control, move over 3 lanes, and run into the side of you putting you out of the race.
that seems like a dangerous way to make a living.
his attitude is... it's ok for me to crash you.
hey, when i make a mistake, somebody other than ME has to pay for my f'up. too bad for you, but you have to pay for MY mistake. i don't have to, and really never have paid the price for driving like an out of control idiot.
i guess when ky was growing up his parents went alone behind ky and cleaned up his screw ups. i would bet he has never had to personally clean up the huge mess left in his wake.
let me ask again... with the skill level of most of the drivers in cup, almost any of them can run it off into a corner way too fast and hope to make it out the other side.
so why don't they ??
because like mark martin they...
have some respect for other drivers,
or
have hit the wall doing that shit and didn't think it is a smart way to drive
know it would be hard to live with if they did some stupid shit and really hurt someone else
have to look in the mirror monday morning and don't want to have to look away in disgust...
no wait, ky thinks his shit don't stink.
i don't think i've ever seen the busch mom and dad at the races.
maybe they are relieved the little monster they created works halfway across the country.
or, maybe not.
most drivers don't survive long doing the stuff ky does week in and week out.
Posted by: exile | May 4, 2008 11:56:59 PM
good one, Jon......kyle may or may not have taken Junior out on purpose; that's not it....it's that he's such an ass to begin with, and he's so nonchalant about the deal......yet he cries like a baby and runs to his hauler when things don't go right.....and to compare him at this stage of his career to Dale Sr. is laughable, simply beyond reason......
Posted by: Ironman | May 4, 2008 11:55:54 PM
Jon: Jr. was placed in an unfair position a long time ago. He was expected to be just like Sr. He has had to live under that legend all of his life and not been allowed to be himself. Not saying that is a bad thing, every time he was interviewed after a win he was asked about Sr. Every anniversary he has been surrounded by reporters asking him how it feels. Does he miss him? Of course he does. Jr. fought hard just to get the attention of his dad, just to be somebody his dad would be proud of. Jr. gained a lot of Sr. fans when he died that horrible day and they to placed a lot of responsibility on his young shoulders. They expected him to carry on the non-existent feud with Gordon. To do the things Sr. did. Jr. could be a huge influence on the direction of the sport if he chose to do so but that is not Jr. he is laid back. He enjoys life and just want to prove that he can win races a be his own person. He craves his own identity.
Posted by: Graceann | May 4, 2008 11:55:41 PM
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