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May 09, 2008

Sometimes it's the quiet ones you have to watch out for

While NASCAR loves it's newsworthiness of it's "star" drivers and the news that even their aggressive drivers bring about, sometimes it's the quiet ones you have to watch out for.

These aren't your drivers that make the news week after week with their driving style or with their "star" power hype that NASCAR has hyped, these aren't the ones that NASCAR and the media push on us week after week.  Weekly, we hear about Dale Earnhardt Jr. (when will he win for HMS), Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and Kyle Busch, just to name a few, these drivers are the NASCAR's media favorites right now, but sometimes it's the quiet ones you have to look out for.

These guys aren't in the media every week, even when their in the top, but you can't count them out.  Who am I talking about?  The RCR drivers of Kevin Harvick, Jeff Burton and Clint Bowyer.  All three RCR drivers are in the top 5 in the standings and other than when Burton was in first in points, not much has been said about them.

Quiet and consistent this season so far, I expect all three to be in the Chase again this year.  I guess they're just not the kind of drivers the media likes to hype unless Harvick is in a feud with some other driver, which he hasn't been in a while, he's not considered a bad boy of NASCAR anymore.  Sure, we heard that Jeff Burton was in the points lead, but a big deal wasn't made about it, not like when other drivers had the points lead, he's too quiet and not controversial enough for the media it seems.

Here are a couple of little known facts about RCR drivers this season (hopefully this won't jinx them) -

Jeff Burton is the only driver to complete every lap this season and leads all drivers with the most runs on the lead lap.  But you have to go to RCR for that information, the media doesn't hype that, but if it had been one of NASCAR's "media darlings", we'd all know about it.

Kevin Harvick has the longest running streak of no DNF's at 54.  He's run 54 consecutive races without a DNF coming into Darlington.  Additional, Harvick hold the record in the modern era (1972 to present) with 58 consecutive races without a DNF.  Again, you won't hear about it, the media only seems to jump on Harvick if he's in disagreement with some other driver.

While Bowyer doesn't have the long career and stats to compare with his teammates, he's been consistent and always seems to be there at the end of the race, again quietly.

So while the media commentators are going on about Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and Kyle Busch during the race, take a look at where the RCR drivers are, more often than not, they're quietly moving up.

Your thoughts?

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Am a JR fan but a racing fan first. I would applaud the media if it devoted more time to other teams/drivers.

43 drivers take to the track every race. They all have fans. There is enough room in the season to publish some good articles on every one of the racers.

Thanks for posting some stats for RCR.

Posted by: Cruising | May 9, 2008 11:07:55 AM

Kat it's ALWAYS the quiet ones!...For all thise naysayers who wrote RCR off after Sr died...HA!
What about Mark Martin who is doing Yoeman's duty for DEI?!
I like the guys who aren't afraid to mix it up...Kyle B, Harv, Smoke and Robbie G...
K2 if you can inspire those Red Bull guys by taunting them it would be appreciated

Posted by: Fan#5 | May 9, 2008 12:03:43 PM

This article is a good article, but a little outdated, since Jeff isn't leading the points.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jb-burton050208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Posted by: Jo Ann | May 9, 2008 12:37:38 PM

I think NASCAR should pay a lot more attention to the other drivers who aren't in the top 10...after all,you need 43 cars on the track every week.
Its becoming harder for those other teams to get sponsorship because they're not in the top 10 and therefore not getting exposure or tv time when running on the track.
Hey,I'm a WASHINGTON REDSKINS fan,but just because they've only had 2 playoff appearances in the last 15 years don't mean I feel they should be ignored.
Every team that makes the race should get some exposure.

Posted by: EARNHARDT NATION | May 9, 2008 2:04:08 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. (Of course i'm a CB fan)
RCR has quietly been the most consistant team this year I have more then once been dismayed by the lack of coverage Boyer has gotten. Even with his win last week FOX seemed to give him the least amount of post race coverage. Hell as long a she running well I shouldn't complain.
Jeff Burton has alway been a good guy and proved that good equipment & talent works.
While I've never been a huge fan of Harvick he seem to be better driver and person on & off the track. Big UP's for RCR.

Posted by: cowboy | May 9, 2008 4:07:56 PM

wayway off the topic here Ok

gretchen or the lady with 48 thong on her head lol

i just tuned in and lol the 48 smacked the wall 2x already lol

right now JJ is in first place to win the copy of the akon "smack that" cd compliments of me lol


the boys will be separated from the real drivers this weekend, the adhd suffers are going to some nice darlington ton stripes for their cars LOL

if nascar or fans after tonite cant see that the so 500 needs to be brought back, then iam just ??? about them!!

MASSIVE RCR WEEKEND......070707 kaching

F5 CHECK MY NUMBERS I HAD YOUR RED REB BULLS GUYS IN THERE......de dodge the top 10 this again its a chebby, & pord alomng with toyohhhtaahhh

Posted by: aggie | May 9, 2008 5:05:32 PM

Kat,

Since Matt Kenseth is credited, rightfully or not, with being the cause of that racing farce known as the chase (I don't care if it is a proper name for a, LOL, playoff. I'm not giving it capital letters.), due to his quiet but efficient championship. I'm going to use your "Quiet Ones," topic to honor Matt. I'm promoting a new term for, "Quiet One's." I think we should call it "Kensething."

Posted by: Keith | May 9, 2008 6:05:37 PM

Keith

Quiet One's." I think we should call it "Kensething."


and yeah some wins it all with no wins or 1 win and they call it something or other iam sure

i think they hired the ebst actuary off wall street to figure out that u cant win it without a win

Posted by: aggie | May 9, 2008 7:45:43 PM

kathy

Just curious did u get some kind of PR gift basket like they give out at awards shows??

and did it come from some place on
Industrial Drive in Welcome, NC

inside the box was it full of goodies with the numbers 07 31 and 29 on them and a few bottles of wine and steaks also in the box ?? ooops and i almost forgot a case of goat cheese ??

LOL

Posted by: aggie | May 9, 2008 7:54:06 PM

Fan#5,

Yep, it's always the quiet ones you have to look out for, you never know they're coming until they're right up there with you.

Keith,

Your right, Kenseth is also one of the quiet ones and the reason NASCAR started The Chase thing.

Aggie,

Nope, not a RCR PR person and no gift baskets here, not that I wouldn't mind if I got one. =) It's not a secret that I'm a fan of Harvick and Burton, among other drivers, but I just noticed those stats and noticed the media never picked up on them.

Posted by: Kathy | May 9, 2008 10:35:30 PM

You nailed it, Kathy. The Boobs-in-the-Booth have their own personal favorites none of whom are the "Quiet Ones". Meanwhile, RCR has all three cars in the top five in points and some pretty impressive stats to boot.

The moral of the story is talk is cheap - especially when it comes from the broadcast booth.

Posted by: Barb G | May 9, 2008 11:51:41 PM

You nailed it Kathy. We fuss every week about the coverage of the 'chosen few'. Can't understand, AT ALL, why they can't have a camera at every race at the finish line and show THE WHOLE FIELD passing the line about every 30 laps. The camera is actually already there, so what would be so hard about that to do???????????? As much as fans raise hell about this issue, they still refuse to do it. Something else, I don't like.......yesterday, the announcers told the WHOLE WORLD that Jr. wants Elliott Sadler voted into the all star race. Well..if Sadler doesn't win the pre race or finish second, guess what???????Kasey's fans probably can't vote enough day and night to beat him. Also, why are the past champions not already in the all star race? (Bill Elliott to name one) If they are not all stars, NONE of them are all stars. I know that is a little off topic but at the same time, it shows the announcers, bias and stupidity. And I needed to rant about it.

Posted by: 9fanatic | May 10, 2008 9:50:26 AM

barb g and kathy

The Boobs-in-the-Booth

best one was last weeks race did u listen closely

when mw rammed casey and dw tells the fans ohhhhhhh mikeys throttle must be stuck

then they go to the in car camera and you here him just pounding the throtle and raming casey

we just howled when we played it back

dw some days has no clue whats going on.........like jr wining 6 in the 2nd half

love to see the odds on that happening

ok kathy cb is starting what 40 and was second tonight ......... should be fun watching him pass those back markers

Posted by: aggie | May 10, 2008 11:20:16 AM

Aggie,

DW is always full of excuses for certain drivers, his brother included.

Bowyer may not do well, then again maybe he will, we've seen him falter or not do well early in the race, but be there in the end. I guess we'll find out tonight.

I'll be listening in on Harvick tonight, hopefully it'll be a nice listen, with the language radio chatter last week you would have figured he figured he finished in the bottom instead of top ten. LOL

Posted by: Kathy | May 10, 2008 12:04:00 PM

Another gripe here, Johnson crashes twice still gets to qualify. They have his and just about everybody else's video on NASCAR.com showing it. KK crashes in qualifying, NO VIDEO! Not much different from him leading last week in the Nationwide race and them focusing on the 2 & 3 place cars, when Edwards takes the lead they show him for the next 15 or so laps. What's the deal? KK isn't winning right now I know but come RW doesn't hesitate to get his sons name out there every chance he gets. I think KK has made some pretty good strides from last season but that has been overlooked, they sure let you know when he has bad luck. About ES, its not that I don't like him but come on, where does he finish?

Posted by: Graceann | May 10, 2008 12:40:16 PM

kathy

Bowyer may not do well,

7 top 10's 4th in points 2 races they sucked at and now their on a roll, 2nd last nite

dirt guys will have this track figured out

iam all in on my numbers/cars from the last blog


es write in WTF is junior on now?? put the pipe down JR ok

es worst deserving guy to be in that race

that AJ guy wow for a cup star he is wayway UNDER CHICKED....lol.......he should grab the 99's mother

speaking of the mdeia great session with jr and nice how they made no reference to his dad during the whole interview

Posted by: aggie | May 10, 2008 1:48:17 PM

Kathy,

I heard that RCR does have really nice PR baskets.. It includes a few bottles of RC's wine and a bunch of things.. I am not sure though:):)

I dont think that Bowyer,Harvick,Burton ,Dillion or Richard care the lack of media recieved..

A quiet storm brews when they hit the track, consistency is the key, not race wins at all..

Can someone PLEASE tell HMS to stop whining about the rear suspension that Roush is using.. Damn a certain one(thats a friend of mine) is whining all freaking weekend.. Till the point I told him to get the hell over it, not like NASCAR wouldnt love to stick it in Jack again..

F5, How should I pump up your Red Bull boys man? They drink too damn much of the product and are jacked as it is:) You know what I mean....

Enjoy tonight you all. I will.. Also 2 weeks home in my own bed..what a nice time:)

The MOOSE will be in effect at the Pit Crew Competiton...

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 10, 2008 2:22:26 PM

Fraceann - The media is never fair. They choose their favorites and to hell with all the other drivers.

aggie - You're right about Allmendinger. He's a really cute little guy with a great personality. And he also has a cute puppy.

K2 - Go over to Trent's and agrue the consistency thing with Mike Daly. He thinks winning races is all that matters, not points. Daly and Freak had a spat going on May 7th.

K2 - I also heard your friend whining today about CE's car being skewed. If it's legal, then HMS should try it.

Can't wait for the pit crew competition. It's more fun to watch than the All-Star race.

Posted by: Diane | May 10, 2008 3:18:25 PM

Graceann - Sorry, I misspelled your name.

Posted by: Diane | May 10, 2008 3:19:39 PM

k2

consistency is the key, not race wins at all..

i agree and that's how sr won the 7 and most of the ones with rcr were won on consistantancy, but with todays chase and the chase wins, extra points ect it seems almost like its set up to neutralize consistancy

with so many winners/penalties ect this might be the year for a consistant driver to win it all, like the 31 or 07


not like NASCAR wouldnt love to stick it in Jack again..


they'd love to stick to him and iam sure they have gone over that car part with microscope!!


dianne yeah those 2 guys are like drunk blogaholics

Posted by: aggie | May 10, 2008 4:28:05 PM

I just had my first Amp energy drink...a sour of the moment purchase at Lowe's Food...it's like a cross between a peach and a tangerine and does NOTHING to amp energy, I'm going to but a case of Red Bull!
K2 good point! Knock em dead tonight

Posted by: Fan #5 | May 10, 2008 5:05:42 PM

Our favorite NASCAR owner has his Indy drivers in P1 and P2 for the Indy 500.

Posted by: Diane | May 10, 2008 6:38:11 PM

Thanks Diane for "Ladling" on the sarcasim...I see Danika hit a over the wall guy too

Posted by: Fan #5 | May 10, 2008 7:25:25 PM

Hey Diane,
Do you listen to Smoke on the scanner? Did he say anything good about Junior's choice for the vote-in driver for All-Star race? ;)

Posted by: Kari | May 10, 2008 7:44:38 PM

ATTENTION: Looking for a lost driver, record 6 wins in one season. Seems to be lost and cannot find his way back to the tracks. If found please return to GEM ASAP. Team #9 is offering a huge reward for information on whereabouts of their driver. No questions ask!

Posted by: Graceann | May 10, 2008 11:57:39 PM

Don't want to piss anybody off here but---------------Sr. won races by.....what????? Consistancy...........I don't think so, he won races by,..... well everybody knows what he won races by. Funny, when you really don't have to say anything. I can not believe some people,..... how stupid can one person be?????????

Posted by: 9fanatic | May 11, 2008 12:10:55 AM

I think everybody that watches Nascar should write to Fox sports to have DW pulled off the air, and replaced by Ned Jarrett. He is way over opinionated and biased, he does not know what he is talking about, (blaming Tony's wreck on Tony), he is blind (Saying Casey Mears had a blown right front tire when he hit the wall, it must have reinflated on its own by taking air frm the left front), he cannot even come close to predicting a winner, he should also only pick one winner , he wouldn't sound as much of an idiot, he had picked before the race Jeff Gordon and Dale "I'm a superstar , but I haven't one in two years , and I sound like I ride the shortbus" Earnhardt Jr to win the race.Down with DW and By the way I also think Larry Mac` is kinda a moron as well .

Posted by: Dick Nixon | May 11, 2008 12:40:47 AM

9 fan

if your so smart check a chart about sr's consistancy

then ask your your self

how stupid can one person be?????????

read the chart and see how many top 10's he had in championship years

http://www.daleearnhardt.net/statistics/

look at 1990 season as an exmaple 23 top 10 in 29 races

or 1980 19 top 5top 5's

if that is not not consistant then you tell me what is?

the guy was aggressive fast and above all consistant, you have to be !!

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 1:26:20 AM

9 fan

u dont piss me off, take a pot shot i have no problem with that, iam even going to give you the definition of stupid ok

by 7 i meant championships OK and that the point i was trying to make was
he won 7 championships with consistant top 5 and 1o's as you can see on that chart

if you knew anything about the sport you would know SR was one of the most consistant drivers ever!!


BTW

Stupid is an adjective meaning "lacking in intelligence",

and you my friend were lacking in your knowledge of how consistant SR was! go take a closer look OK and see he was very consistant!! in all his champioship years and even in off years lots of top 10 and top 5's

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 1:42:09 AM

Aggie,

Your wasting your breath, these Sr. and Jr. haters don't use intelligent arguments, they just spew hatred. Most people who follow NASCAR for a long period of time knows that Dale Sr. was one of the most aggressive, but consistant driver.

I guess I finally realized that since I am a Dale Sr. fan I have to accept Kyle Busch for what he does, but I still don't have to like him as a person, LOL. He has all the talent in the world and one of these days his aggresive driving will bite him in the ass, but I guess until it does Joe Gibbs Racing has given him a rocketship and license to do what he pleases in it.

Posted by: Jon | May 11, 2008 7:54:00 AM

Kari,

I don't think Sadler will get Tony's vote. =)

Posted by: Kathy | May 11, 2008 9:28:26 AM

Kari - I don't listen to scanners but I think I have a pretty good idea what Smoke said. And NO, ES will not get Tony's vote. LOL.

Dick Nixon - I have emailed Fox at least a dozen times about DW. I would like to know how often he is actually right when he opens his mouth. Even after Sadler took full blame for the wreck with Stewart, DW still tried to say it was Tony's fault.

DW has his favorite drivers and when they make a mistake he always blames it on a tire going down or whatever else he can come up with. He's rarely objective. His love for Kyle B. is way over the top. Maybe he needs to adopt the kid.

Graceann - I think the real KK has been kidnapped and an imposter is driving his car. Someone please pay the ransom and get the real Kasey back in that car.

Posted by: Diane | May 11, 2008 9:46:46 AM

Either those All-State girls have him or Micheal Waltrip caused brain damage at the awards show in New York in 06. He would not leave KK alone, I think he scared him so bad KK forgot everything he knew. That has to be it, its all MW fault!

Posted by: Graceann | May 11, 2008 10:08:05 AM

Happy Mother's Day, Ladies!!

Posted by: Graceann | May 11, 2008 10:09:30 AM

Kathy.... i hope you did not put the jinx on RCR by this article... i say this smiling... and yes Kevin seems now to walk softly and carry a big stick instead of trying to sound off at times... that shows maturity.. he has certainly raised the bar and set the centerline for drug testing... NAS(insert you words here) is going to have to step up now that he has..... i thank you for the article and for giving RCR some much due respect.... and yes, i feel that they are very comfortable flying under the radar... i started off as a KH fan, and then i became an RCR fan... Kevin is still my top pick, but should he not get the deal done and Jeff or Clint does... then that makes me a happy camper... good article Kathy, Thank you, and Happy Mothers Day to all of them out there..... be safe and keep the faith..... smile

Posted by: RCR29 | May 11, 2008 10:46:29 AM

jon

thanks and its like arguing with a special olypian you win but your still a loser for arguing

Its like your going to win 7 championships in the old days or day running hot and cold SURE you are

RCR has always finished laps and run consistant at the expense of pushing the edge in the engine room or cheating/wa$ting time on grey areas in the rule book.


Jon

I have to accept Kyle Busch for what he does, but I still don't have to like him as a person, LOL

that says it all and the guy will chnage and one day be a media darling

it might take kyb less time than TS did to dedicate a win to his fans for putting up with his bullshit

KP said what i wanted to hear and was curious of the 2 bros and that their parents are the some of the nicest people around, so who knows how much of this shit the bros do is just to create buzzzzzzzz

on the KK matter the guy is lost somewhere

like ive said u have to drive these cars so loose, kyb just used the walls like flippers on pin ball machine

f5 that jr answereing machine is just too funny, what band are you promoting tehre lol...just when i thought i had seen and heard it lol

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 11:27:11 AM

WEll first and foremost:

Happy Mothers Days to all the women on this board..

Last night. I will say the LADY IN BLACK had PMS:)

Lets see,

Congrats to the 18 car, Add-man and that team.Sorry to watch a certian guy get his rear ripped over the glue patch for the lugs.. Kyle tried his damndest to knock the wall down , but the fastest and best car won.

Jon, you scared me with your Kyle B Comment:)

Kudos,to Fennig and David Ragan
Damn nice night for Doug and the 28 car
Blaney and Baldwin great night.

Minus Kevin making a FUBAR, which he admitted was his fault, RCR another nice and quiet night for points.

To the MEDIA whom keep saying "you cant win a championship without qualifying well. Bite me..

Elliot Sadler, another typical night .Damn whom taught you how to race?

DW a damn idiot when he was drivig and from replaying it just then he loves "Junebug", then Kyle, Then Jeff G..He needs to shut up.Cant wait till July when it changes over ..

I am truly sorry you guys have to listen to that idiot.

I know i am going to start a bitch session with this but wont be the first time.

There are issues over in HMS land, not sure what. Nothing is clicking at all..PERIOD

Ladies not sure on KK. I can say he is frustrated and best watch his back now with new ownership over there.HINT

Pit Crew Competiton this week, ALL STAR and then the 600.. AH home is so nice:)

Once again Happy Mothers Day to all you ladies... Enjoy yourselves you deserve it

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 11, 2008 12:44:35 PM

Happy Mothers Day to all the gals on here. And thanks for the wishes already given.

Kathy - I hope the bad weather passed you by last night. 20 more deaths from tornadoes in Okla. & Missouri. Will this ever end?

Posted by: Diane | May 11, 2008 1:08:39 PM

Congrats to Kyle Busch on his win last
night.

"Happy Mother's Day" to all the ladies who
post on here and to all mother's every
where.

Kathy, I hope you and your family are safe.
Sad to hear there are 20 more deaths in
Oklahoma and Missouri from the tornadoes.

Posted by: Race Fan | May 11, 2008 1:51:31 PM

Kathy and Jon are yu and the family okay??????? Hell just saw what went on there?

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 11, 2008 2:03:05 PM

I think much of the problem with the 9 is back at the race shop--they still haven't righted things from how broken they were last year. But Kasey has to shoulder some blame as well. He's not driving like he used to, which was a lot more balls to the wall. Now he seems to be in "car-preservation" mode--don't wreck and just finish the race instead of flat going for it like he used to.

I'd like to see Kasey "watch his back" all the way out of the GEM shop and land with another team. Carpentier seems like a good guy and is a great interview, but he doesn't belong in Cup yet so if it's a "watch your back" b/c of the new ownership deal, I'd like to see who Mr. Gillett could get to replace Kasey who could do better with GEM's junk than he could--another open-wheeler so GEM could have yet another car sitting outside the top 35? GEM continues to field junk, which is right in line with all the rest of the Dodge junk on the track.

Posted by: Kari | May 11, 2008 2:05:32 PM

oh, poor kasey, he got rich and lost his desire to drive on the edge.

anyway, kyle be jammin' along...

Do the boos bother him? "Not really," he said. "I don't care. I'm here to win. If I win, it just makes 'em more upset and crying on their way home.

By the way, somebody threw a beer can at me. Next time just make sure it's full so I can enjoy it out there, all right?"

Posted by: exile | May 11, 2008 2:19:36 PM

Hey, I got no gripes with Kyle Busch. He's got the field covered and then some. I'd be fine and dandy if Kasey drove a little more like Kyle Busch these days as opposed to oh, my grandma. (Although she drives her owned-it-since-brand-new '66 Malibu with a pretty heavy foot sometimes...) ;)

Posted by: Kari | May 11, 2008 2:37:48 PM

Kari

Hey, I got no gripes with Kyle Busch.

Kari, don't give up on your driver K.K.,
he is far from being the only driver out
there that is having problems, so is my
driver. This is the first year everyone
is driving the COT and most are having
problems trying to figure it out.
Hopefully, things will turn around sooner
then later.

Happy Mother's Day.

Posted by: Race Fan | May 11, 2008 3:20:43 PM

Big E was aggressive and consistent but he was never out of control. If he took somebody out he meant to, like it or not. That's the big difference between him and the Snarky Shrub.

I think we should consider taking up a collection for a Crying Towel for Jeffrey. Just saying. I think it's pretty cool that somebody figured out how to make the POS COT work better even if it was the Rat in the Hat.

My boy, the new Mr Excitement, lucked into another decent finish with a car that should've finished in the top 15. I'm tenatively positive about the addition of Walter Giles but the team needs to get the mechanical failure monkey off it's back.

I doubly concur about ole DW. The man put the "ob" in obnoxious and shared it with his brother.

Happy Mother's Day to the Moms!

Posted by: Barb G | May 11, 2008 3:39:07 PM

Well DW a few years back said Rick H needed to put a boot in Jeff G's butt because he was not focused on racing and on courting instead, does he fawn over JG, sometimes, but at the other end offers criticism when appropriate. Last night DW said Kyle B needs some coaching on saving his car for the end of a race, he won anyway. Opinions and insight, is what we look forward in an analyst, and DW doesn't disappoint, like him or not. DW completely unbiased, not, but always has interesting insights and CUP history to relate.

Is DW talking too much about Kyle B? Well let's see in four years at HMS won four races, in less than a third of the 2008 season, Kyle's almost equaled that number at Gibbs and on top of all that he's number one in the standings. In fact, if this pace continues he might just displace Tony as the go to guy at Gibbs. At this point, we're talking phenom going on here, and yes that fact would inspire a lot of chatter whether it be DW or someone else.

Someone may have already mentioned it somewhere in this or a prior post, but Tony is purchasing a majority interest at HAAS and Martin Truex will be his sidekick beginning with the 2009 season. Engines & dev will come from Rick Hendrick. The deals already been done. My sources in Columbus IN are unimpeachable and without reproach.

RCR might have great standings now, but it always seems when the big events count like the Chase, just can't seem to bring the big one home like HMS, Gibbs, & Roush.

That COT is some type a plow ain't it.

Posted by: Jon2 | May 11, 2008 3:43:47 PM

I was so waiting for you to come out with your usual banter..

J2, you fraking hated, JR till he went to HMS, you hated Kyle at HMS so make up your damn mind. You are the damn fool on the fact of jumping on a freakign bandwagon.You slammed Jr till the annoucemnet to HMS, slammed Kyle and his mouth but know you freakign praise.Take vaseline, go in the closet and come out when you canfigure it out..

Fly by night FAN.ultimate WTF

On the RCR note, FYI, (Sorry Kathy)) DIPSHIT they make the Chase where is JJ, JG is bitching(whom is a friend) about the 99, the crew , the car the lack of doing it to finish..

Sorry you tell me RCR doesnt have anything to finish?????????? CONSTISTENCY WINS POINTS..JJ couldnt get his ass straight all weekend, AGAIN.Jeff pulled a great finish out of nothing..

Yep as you would say my redneck came out but your stupitdity really floors me...


Damn treash RCR and your freaking Prima Donnas are doing shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 11, 2008 3:59:16 PM

Sorry to rile you there K2. That bad of a weekend?

Yes I've called Kyle a few bad names in the past like idiot and such and also had a list of reasons why Rick needed to can him. But what separates me from narrow minded tortured souls such as you, is that I don't wear those feelings on my shoulder. I give praise when due and Kyle is kicking butt. Don't like the little fella too much, too much mouth, but it looks like Rick made a big mistake getting rid of him. He ain't got much of a personality, but the man is sure showing he can drive a car, just what the sport needs, that passionating and emotionating that someone a while back on this blog was missing. Well, appears we're getting lots of it from Mr. Kyle.

I guess when you're told at some point in your career, son ya just don't belong in our company, might have the tendency to shake one up and boy it looks like Kyle's got the fire now.

Absolutely, you are correct, my team except for Junior, ain't playing like they did last year. So what, when has JG never whined, and JJ didn't do so bad with the second backup car. Casey M well, he's history in a short while or at least after this season.

And once again, Junior chose wisely.

Maybe I'm wrong but aren't my prima donnas in the top ten? Seasons still early there K2, lot's of strategerizing going on. Too early for the fat lady to start getting her chords in order.

Posted by: Jon2 | May 11, 2008 4:20:57 PM

Thanks for the concerns, fortunately the storms were north and south east of us. The tornado's early in the week were a lot closer (less than 1/2 mile) to us. It is very sad when anyone loses their life and my thoughts are with their families.

Sorry for the shock Kurt2, but I guess I can't argue about it anymore. I just hope he learns to handle the media better in the near future.

Posted by: Jon | May 11, 2008 4:59:01 PM

Feliz dia mamma

from the nascar open wheelers

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 5:06:11 PM

Junior and HMS made a wise choice and Joe Gibbs Racing made a great choice in snapping up Kyle Busch. It would be sheer speculation to say that Kyle Busch would be doing the same if he was still with HMS.

It is ridiculous to say that HMS made a bad choice in signing Dale Earnhardt Jr. since he is 3rd in points and both Gordon and Johnson are behind him in points. The sponsors have to be thrilled with the amount of exposure Jr. and #88 team are getting them every week and we all know that is what matters in the new NASCAR.

Posted by: Jon | May 11, 2008 5:20:02 PM

No J2, had a graet weekend thanks for asking and damn sure ahead of HMS thus far.

Cant you admit in a comment J2 that RCR and Roush is kicking HMS's ass overall???

Is that hard to swallow?

You said shit about Kyle B from momnet one
1) JGR would self destruct
2) he didnt belong in PrettyBoy ville
3)He couldnt cut it "with Jeff G and JJ's talent"


Now lets move to Jr;

You hated his ass last year and he sucked once he moved to HELL you are all up his rear like a can of vaseline:) as youa re with JJ..

Jr . is the only one whom is doing a damn thing thing. Your Jeff G isnt thrilled with the way things are going, but he is there by the grace of God.HE HAS TALENT. JJ is showing the real JJ.Chad took a vacation and now is on so many shows and not spending time wisely..

Still remains
1) JGR
2) RCR
3) Roush
4) Baldwin and Blaney
5) Kvapil and Parrott

Then we can run on to HMS:)

Glad to see your back J2, I had a great weekend watching the suffering of the DYNASTY, remember that from last year? I am sure more than I do ????

Kathy and Jon, glad you guys are okay.. BE safe

DJ and Rad,
where are you?

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 11, 2008 6:17:22 PM

K2, what is your deal with vaseline? You seem to be fascinated with lubricants and especially the anatomical application variety. Humm.

HMS dynasty suffering? Three in the top ten. Suffer on I say, please give me more.

K2, I hesitate to look at a third of a season and judge a program especially in light of the accomplishments of that program in the past two seasons. So don't count my boys out yet.

RCR, Gibbs, and Roush are doing very well and I commend their programs. I agree with you, it's good for the sport that finally several of the teams are able to run with the HMS bunch.

Posted by: Jon2 | May 11, 2008 6:57:43 PM

k2

yeah great run by the 31 typical work all night pull of a top 10, unreal how these guys keeping doing, tuff nite for the 29 and 07, they be ready for charloote and it could be huge coming out week for RCR

There are issues over in HMS land, not sure what. Nothing is clicking at all..PERIOD

something isnt right and yeah regan is starting to click

KK well what did you say?? put up or shut up and he aint doing much the heat is on KK now

2-17 saved their sorrry asses with decnet finishes


i was watching and thinking a bit, that lil bratt kyb is probably going to let jeff get closer and then just blow him away

ive seen lots fo athletes get traded and come back and haunt their former teams

BUT this KYB is like ?? well i had to look it up


Possessed may be:

Possession, having some degree of control over something else
Spirit possession, whereby gods, daemons, demons, animas, or other disincarnate entities may temporarily take control of a human body
Demonic possession, spirit possession by a malevolent entity

all i can say is what next kyb, unreal driving!!

was it me or did that 99 and his mom just look a lil too friendly together lol


k2 and j2

Your Jeff G isnt thrilled with the way things are going,

things will change at hms SL is on the hot seat right now and will me moved iam sure, soon maybe??

some of the cars they have unloaded for jeff were just shit by his own admission and he's like how can we be this bad??

exile

Do the boos bother him? "Not really," he said.

what did big always say "well at least they know your here" lol

in all this kyb bs it really makes youw onde rhow good the guy would have been at hms with the good stuff


like or hate em kyb is on a hole new level of driving, he is going to get jr's 6 wins and a few more, he gets on a roll and who knows 6-10 wins maybe??

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 7:41:01 PM

Well you can speculate on who got the better deal Hendrick or Gibbs...With Dale Jr (33) you have a license to print money, AND the pressure is on to perform, 3rd in points is not shabby...OR Kyle Busch(23) currently leading the Cup series points race...IMO JGR has a better long term potential ahead of them...things are not well in the House of Usher
Now IMO who has the most formidable team to win it all...the vote goes to Richard Childress Racing

Posted by: Fan #5 | May 11, 2008 7:48:27 PM

K2 f5

k2 you saw a 16,24,20,18,31 and a 43 in it..

Yes he said the 43..Car, dont feel bad some tv said the same !!!!!!so you werent alone K2
Goatman, if its a "rookie" that makes a mess its going to be a OW one.. sam slapped it 77 times I think sam go back to irl asap!! samwe with DF

F5 I peer into my #3 Crystal Ball I see the #18...#20...#31...#29 and #16...But that Jeff Gordon feller could be a spoiller! Oooooh so close F5.....that #3 crystal ball has some life in it still


my CRYSTAL GOAT BALL SAYS if its loose fast white knuckles like Atlanta LOOK OUT, 07 18 11 24 31 29 20....Jr the adhd/brain farts might kick in here?? throw a ford in there 16 maybe 99 and the lil wanker KK can run fast here, he'S from dirt
17 2 dont do good here its bub bye CHASE……man I was out to lunch on these 2

1 Kyle Busch
2 Carl Edwards
3 Jeff Gordon
4 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
5 David Ragan
6 Matt Kenseth
7 Denny Hamlin
8 Travis Kvapil
9 Dave Blaney
10 Jeff Burton

Boys look close 18 11 24 31 and the 99 FIVE out of 10 aint bad……I tilt the scales and win!! With my maybe 99 prediction


its like wall street where a monkey can pick stocks better then the analysts lol

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 11:16:53 PM

Congrats to KYLE BUSCH on the win...{THE PUNK}
JUNIOR with yet another top 5,I'll take it..
MIKEY WITH ALL 3 OF HIS CARS IN THE TOP 30...I'll take that too...WOO HOO!!
The race was good for the most part,they were flying on that new surface...overall a great race weekend...{My driver was KURT BUSCH in the NASCAR pool this week...no money for me after the finish he had...what's going on with him,is he so in awe of his little brother that he's forgotten how to compete?...damn.}

Posted by: EARNHARDT NATION | May 11, 2008 11:31:06 PM

j2

My sources in Columbus IN are unimpeachable and without reproach.

is the depot going or are they staying at jgr

JON

where abouts are you in the usa??

unless iam tunning in ccn i dont get info on weather unless its katrina like

Posted by: aggie | May 11, 2008 11:37:38 PM

Aggie,

Kathy and our family are living in Central Oklahoma, Oklahoma City to be exact.

Posted by: Jon | May 12, 2008 12:02:10 AM

Glad to know you guys are still thre Jon and Kathy..

Goatherder???You are cunting the 2 out of the CHASE>? and above is your top 10 to make it>?????? Damn that gasman is hating life right now buddy

Damn EN, love reading that, you will ake all 3 of MWR in the Top 30:)

"Kyle Busch(23) currently leading the Cup series points race...IMO JGR has a better long term potential ahead of them...things are not well in the House of Usher
Now IMO who has the most formidable team to win it all...the vote goes to Richard Childress Racing

Posted by: Fan #5 | May 11, 2008 7:48:27 PM"

Buddy I couldnt agree more USHER IS FALLING, said it last year but there were the naysayers, the only thing at least attempting to hang is the 88, Jeff G is driving his ass off but many over there are lost with the "REAL ISSUE" Usher is having..I think Mr F5 you know what it is as well as I do..

Funny to all those whom stated JGR would self destruct with those drivers under the same roof, hell I havent ever and I mean ever see the Coach or JD, or ADD_man so damn happy..

F5, diner on Weds...

Posted by: Kurt2 | May 12, 2008 12:12:38 AM

k2

with the old car the teams "twisted" the body on the frame.

i read where somebody was bitchin' about roush off-setting, or turning the body on the frame.

any comments as to...

is this the next new trick?

are most of the teams doing this?

is this why some teams are very fast and others can't hit their ass with both hands?

btw, right now i think kyle could win in a very fast golf cart.

your thoughts??

Posted by: exile | May 12, 2008 12:22:30 AM

JGR and TRD have put together a very impressive racing package that seems to suit Kyle Busch's run until it won't run anymore. It seemed that he could hit the wall as many times as he needed to and it never upset the car.

I think if MWR is truly interested in winning races then Mikey needs to step out of the car and put someone who can actually drive a race car. I can't believe that TRD isn't pouring R&D money into MWR as well as JGR.

Posted by: Jon | May 12, 2008 12:36:59 AM

k2

Damn that gasman is hating life right now buddy

well iam sure things would be better at the 88, but that life for you guys

i'll look for him on Thursday nite


nono that was the race top 10 for us to
compare our crystal balls #'s

i was wtf with your 43 then some tv yahoos says the same, i swear they read this blog lol


the 2 and 17 not the make the chase well??????very iffy real iffy

the #6 kid is coming on strong......who knows who can turn it on during the hot days of summer like the 2 did last year


F5, diner on Weds...

funny you say that mmmmmmmmm

lol should be an interesting bs session for you and f5 lol

BTW

its funny seeing those whining cheaters 24-48 whining about the 99 and yaw and their f ked cause neither one of those 4 hms guys can drive a car set up like that, 99 car looked funny on tv.........what did guys call that in the ole days of frame cars dog tracking??

the balls on hms to whine about cheaters make you just want say F---K off u whiners and sniveling lying cheating bastards.......eat shit and die

Posted by: aggie | May 12, 2008 1:19:11 AM

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