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August 24, 2008
Edwards wins at Bristol
Carl Edwards passed and held off Kyle Busch for the win, even though Busch led most of the race. History seemed to doom Busch, the driver that led the most laps at Bristol had not been the winner of the last five Bristol races and the commentators brought that up early in the race and it seemed to jinx Busch.
Although there were eight caution flags and one red flag, the final three yellow flags were for debris, where only one of them mentioned what the debris was, in fact one of them they were told exactly where the debris was and as drivers went by, they couldn't see it, which really isn't a surprise, mysterious debris cautions seem to happen a lot in NASCAR, especially near the conclusion of the races.
The points got shaken up again, as some drivers in the Chase got caught up in others incidents. Burton, Kahne, Bowyer and Johnson were involved in incidents, but Kahne was the one impacted the most, dropping out of the Chase after getting caught up in someone else's mess. Burton got a DNF because of someone else's mess, but he remained in fifth in points.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. didn't have a good race, he jumped the start and got penalized right off the bat and was never able to recover from it. It was very loud around here with an Earnhardt Jr. fan when they mess up early and unfortunately, we had to suffer a lot of irate complaining. Even though he didn't get a great finish, he actually moved up a spot to third in the standings, mainly because of Johnson's problems, who dropped a spot to fourth.
Although it wasn't Busch that won again, it was Edwards that won his sixth race of the season, which hasn't been that thrilling if you ask me, especially when it's only two drivers running away with everything. It may come as a surprise to some, especially knowing I'm not a fan of his, but I was actually hoping Gordon could have gotten up there and got pass both Edwards and Busch, it just would have been nice to see someone other than Busch or Edwards win.
As far as the incident after the race between Busch and Edwards, to me, both we were wrong. It's not that I don't think Busch shouldn't have been called to the hauler, he should have, but I think Edwards should have been called to the hauler too.
Your thoughts?
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DJ,
And I've said before the current stable of HAAS drivers have no talent to match the quality of the equipment. Just as I've stated that CMears who inherited Kyle Busch's HMS CC as well as crew and car is usually unable to place outside of the nosebleed section because - he gots no talent.
Apparently, TS disagrees with you with respect to the HMS - HAAS association because as I've mentioned on several occasions when discussing his reason(s) for going the ownership route, he always comments the fact his comfort level is much higher because of the HAAS association with HMS.
This important aspect of the TS - HAAS deal completely escapes your biased, less than objective thinking process.
Again, so what else is new when it comes to your thoughts on any matter related to HMS.
Other,
Well the offers for free nights at Myrtle are starting to roll in for the Sept - Oct periods. Who pays for vacation lodgings? Not this family.
Posted by: Jon2 | Aug 26, 2008 8:44:18 PM
DJ - Glad I reminded you of the kite because you gave me something to laugh at. :)
Posted by: Diane | Aug 26, 2008 5:41:38 PM
J2...Making sure you were reading throughly and once again,no..........
I know talent matters,but I said that the 66 and 70 have pretty decent racing abilities,better than their current equipment which is supposed to be with the help of HMS.Anywho...we have been down this road,sorry for bringing it up.
SF 82...just go talk to Bri(just tickle him to death)and you run the joint!LOL!
Speaking of flying kites...while browning myself at the coast and enjoying a cold Bucsh Heavy and spying at the hotties with my super tinted sun glasses.......One dude was in a speedo,looked as if the man had done a roid or 2,trying to fly his kite with his chest bowed out and it did a flip and hit him in the nads!!I spewed the beer and fell out of my chair....loved it!Thanks for reminding me of that Di...........
Posted by: DJ | Aug 26, 2008 5:24:37 PM
F5 - Thanks for enlightening us on K2. LOL.
Posted by: Diane | Aug 26, 2008 5:10:39 PM
K2 and Rocket alike?...Hmmmm I'd say K2 and Harv!
Posted by: Fan #5 | Aug 26, 2008 4:56:17 PM
Wow guys, I've been gone all day and just now got to read the blog. These are the best posts I've seen in a long time. I agree with most of what has been posted.
DJ - Enjoyed all your comments (not rants). Regarding Carl, I don't like him now. Don't know why. But I didn't like KyB for a long time either. Since Kyle has grown on me I think Carl might do the same. It's going to be fun watching the rivalry.
Gretchen & DJ - You've put me in a nostalgic mood by mentioning all those Busch driver names. It was so much more fun to watch those races back then.
K2 - I think it was you who first brought up Robby and SHR. You took the words right out of my keyboard. :) I've been thinking for a couple of weeks that that would be a match made in heaven.
Sfan82 - The way you have explained the new Shootout format shows me that the powers that be didn't examine this as closely as you did. Hopefully some changes will be made.
K2 - I know you call JB the Rocket. But a few times lately I've heard him called "The Professor". He said on NASCAR Now last night that he got that nickname in school.
J2 - Go fly a kite!!!
Posted by: Diane | Aug 26, 2008 4:36:55 PM
I know this is off-topic, but did anyone else read the new format for the Budweiser Shootout starting next year?
For those that didn't, Coors now sponsors the pole award in Cup, so Bud didn't want to associate its race with rival Coors and thus dropped the 'pole-sitters only' format.
I had hoped Coors would take over the race and keep the pole-sitters race alive, but since they didn't I had hoped Bud would just invite the top 20 or 25 in 2008 driver's points to make the best field of drivers possible. Instead, they came up with the most ridiculous format I could think of - "a manufacturer rivalry race". The 6 best Chevys, Fords, Dodges, and Toyotas in the final 2008 owner's points will make up the 24 car field. Just look for a moment at what is wrong with this format:
- The manufacturer imbalance (full-time teams only):
Last Chevy In: #07 (12th)
Last Ford In: #28 (24th)
Last Dodge In: #41 (31st) - assumes no Petty cars because of Richard's no alcohol decals policy
Last Toyota In: #55 (32nd)
9 Chevys Left Out: #8 (15th), #1 (18th), #5 (25th), #15 (27th), #01 (29th), #14 (34th), # 78 (41st), #39 (43rd), #33
2 Fords Left Out: #38 (26th), #21 (42nd)
3 Dodges Left Out: #7 (31st), #77 (35th), #10 (39th)
4 Toyotas Left Out: #22 (33rd), #84 (36th), #00 (37th), #96 (38th)
- "Owner's Points Only", coupled with Chevy's depth eliminating major drivers....
Tony Stewart (6th)
Clint Bowyer (12th)
Ryan Newman (15th)
Martin Truex Jr. (17th)
Mark Martin
- ... while potential including not-so-major drivers:
Travis Kvapil (23rd)
Casey Mears (24th)
David Reutimann (26th)
Michael Waltrip (30th)
Joey Logano (rookie)
the mystery IRL-defector who ends up in the #41 car (if it still exists in '09)
This format shouldn't punish teams like DEI because Hendrick and Childress happen to field Chevy's and reward Michael Waltrip Racing because they are only competing with 2 Red Bull cars, Bill Davis, and Hall of Fame Racing for 4th-6th place in the Toyota camp behind the Gibbs cars.
Hell, if Gibbs was still with Chevy and everything else stayed the same, Jeff Gordon and Denny Hamlin wouldn't even be in the race with this format and the Red Bull #84 and MWR #00 cars, that are both outside the top 35 in owner's points, would be in!
Terrible terrible terrible format Budweiser. Whoever came up with this format should be out of a job.
I want to see the best drivers in this exhibition race, not the 6 best cars "in-class" from each manufacturer from the previous year!
Posted by: stricklinfan82 | Aug 26, 2008 3:29:12 PM
DJ,
What? Talent does matter.
Where you coming from? You don't make sense.
TS on several occasions has stated the HMS -Stewart - HAAS alignment is instrumental for his success at Stewart - HAAS and we know Tony ain't stupid. So get over it.
Posted by: Jon2 | Aug 26, 2008 3:16:36 PM
k2
Aggie,
I love Rocket
funny you say that aswhen i watched him and i've never met you he seems like he has the same demeanor as you, i get this gut feelinge xcpet for his glasses jb and you are probably a like physically
the kids are ok but tehre is no fan bonding with them form the majority of the fans IMO
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 3:09:47 PM
gretchen
your alive and dry i hope
Brad Keselowski:
Boy I was sooo happy for him. And actually very surprised that he turned down the 12 ride at Penske.
to be honest nice to see loyaty and not $$$ motivate a kid to make a decision
when rp turns on look out
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 3:05:29 PM
Biden bounce - nada. Michele Obama bounce -nada.
McCain in the most recent Gallup poll takes a 46 - 44 lead over Barack Hussein Obama.
The rumor mill, and it's only a rumor, is that John - I'm a war hero and you're not - McCain will pick Colin Powell as his VP choice.
Stay posted, developing.........
Posted by: News you can use | Aug 26, 2008 2:47:15 PM
Hello all.
Much of what I would say has already been said but oh well...
On Mears:
I truly hope this works out for him. If it doesn't he'll be done in stock cars. But I trust Childress' instinct for finding talent. Bowyer and Harvick have done pretty dang well, so....I just don't think Richard would have signed Mears to a fairly long term contract if he didn't feel somewhat secure in Casey's abilities. But Bowyer looks more Jack D than Mears, lol.
On Dale Jr.:
Driver error. And he has not made many this year, but that was his bad. But he lost no places in the standings because Puffs stunk it up royally, LMAO.
#78 car:
WTF was he doing? Was he the only car on the dang track that didn't see the wreck. But, Burton will get him back in his own way I am sure.
Bowyer on Waltrip-- LOL!!! HA HA HA!! He stated what 80% of the drivers think.
Mears' spotter: My god what was he doing, because it damn sure wasn't his job.
Brad Keselowski:
Boy I was sooo happy for him. And actually very surprised that he turned down the 12 ride at Penske.
Joey Logano:
Soemthing rubs me ill about that move, but I guess times are changing, and it's just different now.
I miss the "Busch Series" days with Casey Atwood, Buckshot Jones, Hermie Sadler, Jeff Green, Hank Parker Jr. ( who I see along with Billy is relegated to Hark Parker 3D bow hunting deer on Versus these days), Bobby Hamilton Jr., pre-drug problem Shane Hmiel and Kevin Grubb, Randy Lajoie, Kerry E., etc. I can see other faces and can't place their names, but I am sure some of you get my point. Back when the NBS had it's own identity aside from Cup. THAT is why I like Brad K. AND his descision to remain in the NNS for one more year.
Moving on to Carl and Kyle:
Thats Racin. And all of the drivers are the same. If they bump you it's fine, but you better not touch them. And for Kyle, and JD, and Addington to even have the audacity to say a word to Carl about that was simply ludicrous. Especially considering how Kyle has made his living. Remeniscent of Earnhardt being pissed at Mayfield back at Pocono I thin it was in 2000.
But, what I did admire, was that Carl Edwards, unlike most of the pansy asses driving today, had the testicular fortitude to admit that he done it on purpose.
That racing style ain't for all the drivers, and that's fine.
But I for one- since it appears Junior don't have a shot this year- am looking quite forward to watching these two donkeys racing for this Cup.
Posted by: Gretchen | Aug 26, 2008 2:46:24 PM
Kurt2, where is the Ontario Motor Speedway memorial Bobby Unser and others had put up out there?
Posted by: Mike Daly | Aug 26, 2008 2:41:26 PM
Yep K2 and agg....I was thinking about Benson as an example of what is wrong with Nascar and the almighty sponsor control aspect.Magic shoes and Sawyer never got that shot they deserved.I guess I'm old school when it comes to racing...guys like Pressley,Marlin,Lajoie,Shrader,hell even Craven.The influx of pretty boy youngens is the business I suppose and it all started with the 24.That is why nites and actions that occured at Bristol are shots in the arm for my old school racing needs...
Man...TS and RG would get me pretty fired up.Throw in low-key Newman and I don't doubt TS would make sure the resources would get his teams right for 09.I can wish I guess!I just can't see and haven't seen where HMS has helped that org and I can't see them giving the same help to TS for next year.And J2,don't give me that driver talent crap.Yep TS and RN are better than Riggs and Raines or whoever and it will show next year,but they are not chop liver either.That org needed someone like TS to take over,not HMS backing....
I'm curious to see what the 96 will do...I think they are blowing some sunshine up Coleman's tail as far as what they have instore for him.They are talking merger and have got Mayfield,Logano,Shrader and whoever when he was supposed to race quit a bit??If they were smart,since they are struggling,unless it is for qualifying purposes,to put him in that car alot more this year if he is indeed their future.Makes me say Hmmmmm......
Posted by: DJ | Aug 26, 2008 2:15:22 PM
Aggie,
I love Rocket , issue is these days (unfortunately) when he went to Jack back in the day he was"too old" and now wont be considered (NOR DOES HE WANT A FULL TIME CUP RIDE)..Its the nature now , its kids only..sad but true
Elton Sawyer was passed over
Micke Mccaughlin was and the list can continue of good drivers whom got "lost"
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 26, 2008 1:57:29 PM
dj
its kinda sad when jm is considered for a ride over a guy like johnny benson!!!!! to me its just bs, benson should be in cup smart articulate has a fan following ect
14-4 is going to be fun to see what happens i think its going to all good or all shit and a typical first year team , i dont know what to think about shr and the whole hms deal.....rn to me has seen better days
as a fan i can get wrapped up in this who gets the good stuff bs, you get it and then have a brain fart or bad luck and where did it get you?? to the infield faster?? who knows about the good stuff and its distribution policies ????
i'll agree with you on the 99 when a push comes to shove he is going to be right there in your face the what 5 yeaars age diff between him and kyb is starting to .......i think that meeting with pearson did wonders for him and he has been the best or 2nd best car out there all year right now to me BO is the CC of the year jf 6 and sa 18 honorable mentions
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 1:51:14 PM
He was texted Aggie to head to the shop(OFF DAY) and was let go
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 26, 2008 1:47:42 PM
Dj
That wasnt a rant at all. You were honest on your thoughts..
I know the HOF69 said Jamie won a race @ Chips place. PLEASE NOTE< that was a car setup for Sterling Marlin and sterling was hurt.
I see Stremme and Reed (Whom is at GEM) probaly making more progress than they have in a bit , because they will have equipment.
Biggest change in this sport has been the SPONSOR angle. DJ, your guy Wimmer will not get a shot do to the past off track issue(I dont agree with it BTW). I am no Sadler fan (either of them) but he has done better for a bit once the contract was signed.. The sponors control the seat now.
On RG,I agree with you, if he would hit a TOP car he would prove all the naysayers wrong... He has the talent, drive and is a no nonsense guy..I would love for Robby to go with SHR
On Carl.It was good for someone to finally say that about him. This is a competitive sport and its getting much tighter each week and year.Cant do much on calling them names(minus the 48) at all. What happened the other night was just RACING, funny how Addman went over to "speak' with Carl ...
On Casey M, the plan in place should work for him and RC hitting 4 teams. He stated a long time ago he wouldnt hit the 4 cars till he was SURE. RC is human and made mistakes, but not alot when it comes to racing.. Man knows what he is doing..
Cant wait for the lovely trip to Fontana this weekend. Best part is getting off the plane at Ontario, CA airport and looking at the mountains:)
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 26, 2008 1:46:53 PM
dianne or k2
did jjyoyo get fired by a text message??
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 1:37:18 PM
Pondering thoughts on a rainy day........
Diane...I was right there with you and you said it best as others with Stremme.So I just let ya'll chat with the HOFer.....
I see the 41 is open...as in open wheeler probably.Good for Reed....It will be interesting to see how he does at GEM.I thought Carpentier did ok for getting the cars qualified except last weekend.Not sure if he stays or they do a forth??I'll be curious to see how Reed does and Stremme if he gets the 12.For Reed,because even though no one seems to like Mayfield,I can't see where Sadler or Reed are a better racer than JM.Maybe better people or whatever,but skills?I can't see that Sadler has done much at all in the 19 after he took over for JM.JM did get into the Chase.I understand about the riff between him and RE,but Sadler has not done anything eye opening.I do feel GEM will offer better stuff for Reed to show if he has got a future,and at 22...he may do ok.But OK or even top 25 in points doesn't guarentee a ride,which leads me to Stremme.He did a good job in the 40 his second year with a organization that hasn't done much since Marlin.JPM,even though I detest him,got a road course victory due to his skill,not equipment.He will never make the Chase and he will not win much if at all again.If Stremme gets the 12,he has a chance to prove or improve on a promising career.The 12 is a solid if not really good ride that had reach a plateau with Newman.As Di said,he is marketable.If he doesn't do well in the 12,then HOF..you may be correct.We just don't know.........
For all you 99 haters that think he is fake...check out the story on Jayski.I just think the dude is real.Really nice and a bad ass that can back up his game.Good combo.But,that is just me I guess.I liked him as he was coming up and I like his ways at the track.Didn't really like the 17 incident,but nobody is perfect.I'm trying to find me a driver that can contend and is a bad ass.My guy RG is just struggling this year and has really for a few.I still pull for him and wished like hell he would do something or whatever to get up near the front.That GEM help hasn't seemed to help much and I still believe he can get the job done in better equipment.I was gonna go with the 14/4 combo for next year as well because that is my sports # I wear and wore,but it is the 39 now.Soooo...just not sure.I be pulling for guys like Stremme and Reed and Mears to do well.I'll probbaly not pull for the 20 as he seems just a little bit to sure of himself to be 18.I'll continue to pull against the 42,48,88,11,18 just because I can...and pull for the 2,12,7,07,99,00 and all the underdogs with less $$ that try to make a race each week,becasue I can..........and I hope the 4 car can make a return.
Sorry for long rant as it is a rainy non-productive day here in NC........
Posted by: DJ | Aug 26, 2008 1:20:49 PM
k2
ah come on step up to 2008 dude
Perfect owners would be Chip, Felix and Rick H.. All full of shit and Hell a sponsor could be
MANURE FOR FREE dot com
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 12:54:20 PM
Memo
To: Barack Hussein Obama
From: Nobama
Re: Your weak poll numbers.
Bush is killing poor helpless terrorists.
Home prices are plummeting like the stock market.
The economy is tanking.
Hurricanes all over the place.
John Edwards is coming to a town near us to impregnate our womenfolk.
Got Joe Biden to give you the matured guidance you need in this campaign.
All this happening and you're still tied in the polls with McCain?
Where's your message? Oh, yeah, that's right you don't got none.
Stay posted, developing..........
Posted by: Nobama | Aug 26, 2008 11:11:42 AM
santafe
...Maybe the cars and the teams of this drivers have something to do with it...
all of the above their teams are just in a disarry for a few years what puzzles me is penske isnt that kinda of guy to be also ran in anything he does so who knows...... kb well when he won it all he had a great cc and team and LUCK LAST YEAR HE got hot last or else he is just AN also ran kk got lucky at mid season and then slid back to where is belongs A FRINGE CHASE DRIVER
its sad and with THE us car industry the way it is?? A good thing is bob n at chryco like cup, but do the share holders?? bring in kia and honda :)
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 10:38:09 AM
k2
oooooops neeeds $$$$ and a sponser AL needs a star in cup
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 10:03:32 AM
dianne
on chip and i know dario made the final decision
but what a salesman the guy must talk aguy like dario from going form the irl to cart with a maybe could be what if sponser
dario iam sure is shaking his head
after last season and seeing the new car, coming up thru the ow as in low flying rockets not open wheel us cars is just too hard a curve for these guy, heck even a ow dirt champ like blaney is strugling even the kinser went back
k2
how about cale gale one of your risng stars spottings........kid just needs some &&& he looked good in 4th and winning the pole he has speed
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 10:02:04 AM
K2, F5, Barb G,
Thanks for the comments on Chip and Stremme. Yes, K2, I caught the fake email address. Chicken sh-- in my opinion.
After I re-read my post, I was kind of embarrassed. I sounded a little high and mighty like a couple of others who post on here. I apologize for that. LOL.
F5 - I love Schrader and Trickle stories. If you have anymore, please share. :)
Posted by: Diane | Aug 26, 2008 9:46:59 AM
k2
so is the new media nick name for CB
rawhide and can expect mw to use it when he takes his next pot shot at cb
Posted by: aggie | Aug 26, 2008 8:40:01 AM
The ONLY way Gannasi would win a championship would be sellout to SHR
Posted by: Fan #5 | Aug 26, 2008 7:08:15 AM
Why is it that everyone blames Chip Ganassi for his drivers shortcomings?
Mac Murry won a race at Ganassi and would have qualified for the chase, some said Ganassi was holding him back. He left for Roush and now he may be out of a ride because he is performing worse.
Casey Mears- Ganassi equipment is holding him back. He went to HMS and some said he will make the chase and win races, out of HMS is a year.
Stremme - He will be the next Gordon when he gets in the 12 car. Ganassi was holding him back. I will be surprised if that 12 car remains in the top 35.
Montoya - He will win the cup if he went to the 20 car. Ganassi is holding him back. They failed to mentioned that Chip is giving JPM a money bank that why he remains put.
Reed on his way to GEM beacause Ganassi is holding him back. Being Kahne's R&D driver will make more sense really?
I do not see Chip holding a noose around anyone's neck and I do not believe he is to be blamed.
If only the drivers I mentioned would find some talent, then they would not be out of a rides. I bet I can put Stewart in the 41 and he will bring Chip a championship.
Posted by: Hall of Fame 69 | Aug 26, 2008 6:28:46 AM
"JPM first year meadia attention, this year a joke"
well the same can be said of kurt busch season...19th in points only two spots ahead of JPM...and i dont see anyone of the dodge`s drivers doing much better...right now the best dodge is 14th in the standings and only kahne and newman have a shot to make the chase...Maybe the cars and the teams of this drivers have something to do with it...
Posted by: Santafereñotilend | Aug 26, 2008 3:40:35 AM
What a great Schrader line, F5! His one-liners are classic. I had a blast with him one day at the "P" word on pit road. He's a very funny man and a true racer.
I'm with Diane on Stremme. He went to the Casey Mears School of Cheep as well. Who knows what he could do with some good stuff.
Hi Cheryl! Nice to see you posting.
Posted by: Barb G | Aug 26, 2008 12:29:08 AM
Di,
Dont argue with , hell lets see:
1) HMS warrior
2)24/48 forever
3)Hall of Fame 69
All one in the same Di.... EMAIL ADDRESS:
destinyc007@hotmail
Which is the ost generic ,ghetto HIDING ass website known to man..
Hall of Flame, 48 4 never,etc
Stremme drove for Chip and Felix, hell that should be enough said, BUT BUT BUT DIane, proved the point. Coors got sick,as did Darios sponsor of Chips BS and Felix's BS...
Perfect owners would be Chip, Felix and Rick H.. All full of shit and Hell a sponsor could be MANURE FOR FREE ....
F5 I think that makes the point??:)
Schrader wouldnt enver say that man>>LOL>> thats Ken.. I can tell you what Steve H states on Chip .. daily and weekly...and you know that as well.
Chip thinks CUP is Open wheel and it isnt..
JPM first year meadia attention, this year a joke.
Reed leaving... that is a good damn thing..
ANyone whom drives the 5 and leaves wins and does better, anyone whom leaves Chip does as well as long as its not the 5,....HUMM see a pattern
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 25, 2008 11:48:22 PM
aggie your a funny guy, Next time your donating some of your hard earned Canadian warbucks to my brothers in Shakopee(Shock-Ah-Pee) Bow your head to the greastest Fig 8 this side of Rockford...I always did what Schrader told me..."Close your eyse, and when you don't hear a crash open them"...Famous Daves SUCKS...sorry folks it's nasty Tony Roma's at the MOA rocks...is Hooters still there?
Posted by: Fan #5 | Aug 25, 2008 11:06:00 PM
hof 69,
Please tell me where I can find facts to back up your statement:
"Diane, actually Stremme lost the sponsor 'Coors' and the 40 car went down the drain because Stremme did not perform to keep the sponsor."
This is what Jayski reported about the Coors sponsorship:
"Coors Light did not return to Ganassi in 2008 in order to became a NASCAR sponsor and will sponsor the Pole Award and became the Official Beer of NASCAR."
Stremme finished 24th in the points in 2007. Not that bad IMO. Franchitti, who is supposedly a superstar didn't do well at all in the #40 car. Right now Montoya (another supposedly superstar) is in 21st and Sorenson is in 31st. That tells me that the Ganassi cars aren't that good.
Also, do you have crystal ball? If not, how can you state this as fact:
"If they put him in the # 12 car same story. He will not perform and the team will close down. Or Penske will put Castroneves or Weldon in the 12 car in 2010 to attract new sponsors and soon he will close the 12 team down for lack of sponsorship. The cycle repeats itself. Ironically, why would Penske put a guy that lost a sponsor in a car that needs a sponsor?"
Unfortunately I can't see the future. As I stated earlier, I don't know if Stremme has the talent to be a successful Cup driver. But I would like to see him get another opportunity (in a good car this time).
Posted by: Diane | Aug 25, 2008 9:43:29 PM
hof 69
cup is getting a lil costly for these co's
u can get into irl for what 5-7 million and its growing now, so its a deal u cna get 5 irl teams for mr ed's 99 comands
helio or some other guy from ow in cup its to hard a curve to jump in
its onething to be smothe with 1500 lb car but with 3400 lbs and 500 miles and guys all over you its a whole new ball game
i like the idea of jpm to the 20 at jgr :) has that rumour have any legs??
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 8:34:30 PM
f5
was famous daves around when you were in MN?? i think so?? right??
f5 cedar lake had to be one fav tracks out here??
in your honour iam stopping in sux centre and giving your racing carreer 2 minutes of silence OK :(
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 8:28:04 PM
Diane, actually Stremme lost the sponsor 'Coors' and the 40 car went down the drain because Stremme did not perform to keep the sponsor. If they put him in the # 12 car same story.
He will not perform and the team will close down. Or
Penske will put Castroneves or Weldon in the 12 car in 2010 to attract new sponsors and soon he will close the 12 team down for lack of sponsorship.
The cycle repeats itself.
Ironically, why would Penske put a guy that lost a sponsor in a car that needs a sponsor?
Penske put Scott Riggs in the 12.
Posted by: Hall o Fame # 69 | Aug 25, 2008 8:28:02 PM
: 68 camaro ss
bengals
when do the bengals play that prison team ??
marvin lewis will be fired by xmas by that sorrrrry assed bunch of losers/cons/felons
ok 69 rs ss rag top big block :) with rallye wheels, and the rare blinker marker lites on the hood :)
god's muscle car
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 8:23:36 PM
Jon - I was being sarcastic when I said Stremme should turn down the Penske ride, duh!!!
Maybe he would have better stats if he had been driving for someone other than Chip. And you know he's not getting Rusty's best stuff. The good stuff is going to Steve. I can't say that Stremme will be a successful Cup driver. I just don't think he's had a good enough opportunity.
Posted by: Diane | Aug 25, 2008 8:19:15 PM
gretchen
i hope u bought a waterproof router and didnt forget about us
did you people see that guy down there who decided to go kite sailing and got pciked up and slammed into a building and lived to yak about it UNREAL
i think the guy was trying to out do this guy try not to laugh as its hilarous and sad!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzVH7Hp7QI&feature=related
here is the fay guy
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ujwISf9tW08
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 8:17:51 PM
j2
budddddddy iam on shpilkas waitinmg to leave
and iam ready for a jewish workout a
schvitz/steam room and a beer
bet you never heard that line in the usa??
barely recovered from strugis and ready for springsteen on saturday
last time i was the boss in 88 at that amesty international concert in to it was like electricty in the air you could lite a reefer without a match unreal concert
here was the line up
the show featured Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, Sting, Peter Gabriel, Tracy Chapman,
9ischasin
thanks for the response...peace...cheryl
your welcome and peace wow sounds like woodstock where is my woodstock/ hendrix cd's and vw van
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 8:09:24 PM
What has Stremme done since becoming a Elite series driver that puts him in any position to turn down a ride at Penske?
Posted by: Jon | Aug 25, 2008 8:08:04 PM
k2
jimming fenning is old skoole and ragan is going to be the star at rfr mr ed will never win the fans over
jack and that me ed just get along so well.....to me mr ed is just so phoney and that bs with mk i'll nevr forgive him for
it was kinda like saying iam teachers pet and i can do what ever i want
ok k2 lets agree to judge cm in 12 months or when does not have a top 5 finish LOL
he has that hms 5 25 car jinx only a trd ride can cure you of the curse of 5 25 at hms
guys gals iam kinda ??? on both these guys to lead the usa.....biden who knows??? ms bama is going to win him some votes
have you people ever heard a better speach tham couomos back in 84?? unreal speach
ole teddy k should have been for the us swimming team
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 7:59:35 PM
K2 - He's on my "do not read" list"!!!!! :)
"Stremme to the 12?
He has no sponsor appeal, no talent, was fired for both reason's previously. Penske might as well buy out Jaimee Mac's contract and put him in the 12."
It's funny that Chip lost the sponsor and shut down the car after Stremme was fired. And who did Chip have run that same car when his "new" driver was injured. Maybe Ganassi would still have that car if he had kept Stremme. JMHO.
Posted by: Diane | Aug 25, 2008 7:59:09 PM
k2
jimming fenning is old skoole and ragan is going to be the star at rfr mr ed will never win the fans over
jack and that me ed just get along so well.....to me mr ed is just so phoney and that bs with mk i'll nevr forgive him for
it was kinda like saying iam teachers pet and i can do what ever i want
ok k2 lets agree to judge cm in 12 months or when does not have a top 5 finish LOL
he has that hms 5 25 car jinx only a trd ride can cure you of the curse of 5 25 at hms
guys gals iam kinda ??? on both these guys to lead the usa.....biden who knows??? ms bama is going to win him some votes
have you people ever heard a better speach tham couomos back in 84?? unreal speach
ole teddy k should have been for the us swimming team
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 7:54:58 PM
aggie....i just think it's about time someone mentioned him by name...he's seems like such a nascar ass-kisser...maybe i'm wrong but that's just my take...thanks for the response...peace...cheryl
Posted by: 9ischasin | Aug 25, 2008 7:54:31 PM
9ischasin
from some what some one emailed me
When they mention a driver by name, it means they blame them. If it's only an incident it would said, "a fellow competitor".
Posted by: aggie | Aug 25, 2008 7:48:43 PM
Stremme to the 12?
He has no sponsor appeal, no talent, was fired for both reason's previously. Penske might as well buy out Jaimee Mac's contract and put him in the 12.
Wimmer, Riggs, Raines,Yeley, AJ,Mayfield deserve that # 33 more than that no talent Mears.
But this is today's Nascar being so sponsor driven that talent means nothing. Continuing to put these no talent pretty boys in your cars will only weaken the overall racing product and drive fans away. Racing is missing heart, these little rich kids have none.
Put some real men in these cars that can wheel and let em race. Send these pretty boys to a modeling agency or acting class where they belong, with their traction control.
Posted by: Hall of Fame # 69 | Aug 25, 2008 7:32:30 PM
Aggie,
Ragan makes it as long as the "drink of Jimmy Fennig still is made:)). And it will
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 25, 2008 7:27:11 PM
9ischasin, dont be a stranger.. We arent always PC, but we are honest..
F5, FS, is polishing his toy.. Am I correct on Mr Vickers and Mr busch???????? The 5 car.. Wait till Mark gets the 5 next year..
See whom gets top notch for a HELL OF ALOT OF MONEY.. I think you know what Rick is paying him for 1 full year???????????
68 Camaro. Dead on to take Scap field, you must be bad off..
Di,
Dont even address the ididot whom posted. I have a hell of hard time with it MOST OF THE TIME, but its not you:)
J2, Humm save the post, hell should you not be loving Mark Martin by now????? Bought the same time you loved Jr?? ( I truly pity Jr for a fan like J2)
Watch Casey next year and the year after.. Wait till the whole thing comes out then "polish your toy real hard"... After that watch Usher go to a Chinese "POO POO PLATTER".
Posted by: Kurt2 | Aug 25, 2008 7:26:14 PM
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