Subscribe to this blog's feed« Pit Crew or Crew Chief | Main | Visiting the B2 bomber »
Talladega
Thank goodness its over. This is the one race that had every team worried and rightfully so. Half of the chase contenders ran well and the other half got caught up in some kind of wreck. All in all it was the best qualifying and race finish that we have ever had down there so Ill take it and get onto Kansas.
I didn't really see the replays of what happened during some of the big wreck but I guess the 12 had something to do with one of them. During one of the stops Gregg Biffle cut Ryan off on pit road. The 16 was pitted right behind us and this happened when he was 16 laps down. It had nothing to do with anything except Ryan came over the radio and said he's mad at me cause he thinks I started that last wreck. Its Talladega, it happens.
OK last thought. For the second time in a row a Cup car has not passed through post race inspection without some problems. Nascar needs to make a some rules and stick by them. If you don't pass you don't pass. I guess there was a problem with the Gannasi cars going through post race inspections but I don't think anything is going to happen. Most teams out there are pushing the envelope on how far they can go and without Nascar stepping in and trying to stop it it will continue. Nascar sent the 29's crew chief home but technically speaking he didn't do anything that was illegal in the handbook. Everyone know what they did was cheating, but there was nothing written up about it. Nascar sends him home and passes the Gannasi cars through. Oh well, it don't really matter to me one way or another cause we finished 4th and ill take it any time at Talladega.
October 3, 2005 in Race talk | Permalink
TrackBack
TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451bce769e200d83459677569e2
Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Talladega:
» cars and Over The Wall: Talladega from
N.Y. Commuters Head to Work Despite Threat - Abcnews.com - source tells abc news that one of the attackers who threatened the new york subway system is in the u.s. new york city police officers check subway cars at columbus circle on friday, oct. 7, 2005. [Read More]
Tracked on Oct 7, 2005 11:25:35 AM
Comments
great race yesterday Trent. The whole 12 bunch should be proud. The wreck was just a Talladega special, much as I don't like Jimmie Johnson, that was the same thing. Talladega seems to breed crashes like that.
You guys are putting a good group of races together for the chase.
Good luck and keep the momentum up!
Posted by: Newman Fan | Oct 3, 2005 8:04:44 AM
I think you just take Biffle as he is! He is just mad because he isn't winning all the races. He has really not done anything special since he bad mouthed Harvick a few
months back. He was just bragging a little
to much on himself. Great job for all of the Alltel Crew yesterday. Ryan did a excellent job and you guys peformed as always (PERFECT). Thanks!
Posted by: Grace | Oct 3, 2005 8:57:12 AM
Correct me if I am wrong - but didn't the officials catch Harvick's "violation" before the race? And didn't they catch McMurray's AFTER the race? So I don't necessarily think NASCAR let Ganassi's cars slide through. What do you think they should have done? Sent McMurray's crew chief home? The race was OVER!
Do you not like McMurray, Trent?
Posted by: Christina | Oct 3, 2005 9:29:56 AM
Okay, Johnson and Newman both made boneheaded moves and caused wrecks. Don't blame it on Talladega. They screwed up and that's all there is to it.
Posted by: Michael | Oct 3, 2005 9:58:27 AM
Amen Michael. I love Jimmie Johnson more than his wife, but he did do a dickish thing by running into saddler on a straightaway! As did Newman....My 2 questions are...Before the green flag was waved why were there 2 different packs of cars? Did they have to do that? And my second question is...TRENT WHY ARE YOU UP THIS EARLY IN THE MORNIN AFTER YOU JUST WORKED ALL DAY YESTERDAY? Dont you believe in sleeping in?
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 10:24:03 AM
McMurray's car failed after the race due to damage sustained during the race according to nascar officials. I agreed with the commentators that they should take away all re-inforced bumpers front and back at the restrictor plate tracks to keep guys like newman from bump drafting going into the tri-oval. There is no excuse for turning guys on these tracks endagering so many lives. I am still wondering why Newman drives a dodge on the track and a ford off the track..
Posted by: keith | Oct 3, 2005 10:41:43 AM
Keith, your always going to fail post race inspection if you build a car that is made to crumble when hit in the rear. Stiffin up the rear bumper bar"like everyone else" and you wont have to worry about you car coming in 3/4 to low. And don't try and tell me that Newman is the only one the bump drafts, name another driver that doesn't.
Posted by: trent | Oct 3, 2005 10:48:59 AM
Hahaha this is a knee slapper....."There are three pedals in the car. The middle one is the brake, in case he didn't know." - Sadler
And is Jimmie takin a stab at the fans here?..."It's real easy to sit on your couch and point fingers and say 'So-and-so did something wrong, but until you are out there in these cars, at these speeds, and seeing all the near-misses and what is really going on, it is not worth forming an opinion.''
Good Morning Trent!
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 10:53:20 AM
Everyone bumpdrafts, even the guys who complain about it. I saw Sterling Marlin bumping the hell out of McMurray. Newman just bumpdrafted Mears at the wrong time and caused a big wreck. Johnson of course blamed his mess on Dale Jr, again.
I thought Dale Jarrett was going to climb that fence after he won. That would have been cool.
Posted by: 19Jay12 | Oct 3, 2005 10:54:29 AM
I think he thought about it, but then thought about the hip replacement that would have taken place right after that and changed his mind!
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 10:55:58 AM
I loved that comment by Sadler, Jen! I read that and cracked up laughing!
I just read an article about bump drafting on nascar.com and got another quote from Sadler too -
"We are all going to blame it on restrictor-plate racing, but we have all got brake pedals in this car," Sadler said.
Don't think that quote was quite as funny - however, it is VERY true!
Posted by: Christina | Oct 3, 2005 11:09:49 AM
Although Sadler's comments are humorous, they are not very warranted. I wonder if Sadler has a special formula for one car braking and slowing down a line of ten cars going 190 mph. And as far as Johnson's comments about the fans, he brings up a great point. It is easy to criticize from your couch when you have numerous replays and more than a split second to decide what a driver should have done. I very much doubt that anyone on this board has a clue what it is like to drive a car at Talladega in a tight pack of 30 cars.
Posted by: Wes | Oct 3, 2005 11:23:50 AM
Trent,
Working in the pits, don't you at least repsect the driver who gets out of their car after an incident and says, "yea, I fugged up there..." more than the driver who is invlolved but points his finger at someone else. As a fan, I repsect Ryan for getting out and saying he was sorry for his incident.
you also make a great point about the both the building of the ganassi cars, and the 29 crew chief's infractions. I can remember drivers with rear end damage who win the race and still pass post race inspections at 'dega. Why is it when a non Hendrick ride violates a unwritten rule they are penalized, yet the HMS cars get a sort of attaboy for their creative engineering regarding unwritten rules.
19Jay12,
It is never a drivers fault at Hendrick. Starting with Gordon and continuing through the ranks of their cup teams, it's always someone else's fault. the 38 was already in the process of spinning around when the 8 hit the 48, but somehow a guy not on his bumper at the time hit the 48 and rammed him into the 38. Videotape doesn't lie.
I would love a HMS fan to tell me a single instance the 24, 48, 5 or 25 got out of their cars and manned up for their involvment.
Posted by: cliff wahl | Oct 3, 2005 11:24:29 AM
Is it just me, or does this feel like the last race in Dega with the blamming??
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 11:28:21 AM
Jen,
It does feel like the last 'dega race all over again. Funny how it is many of the same folks involved again too...
Posted by: cliff whal | Oct 3, 2005 11:39:46 AM
Hey Trent !
Great points day for you guys. Be careful what you wish for, on rule enforcement.
Good luck with Dorthy & Toto.
Posted by: Larry | Oct 3, 2005 11:41:30 AM
Trent...Great run. I am proud that Newman got out of the car and assumed responsibility. Even tho, while people are still pointin the finger, Mears himself says it started when the 25 was either blocking or checked up, which began a chain reaction. THE 41 SAYS...he does not blame Newman because he had to check up and THEN Newman got into the back of him.
Nonetheless, everybody bump drafts, and the same drivers that are complainin now, are smilin when they are on the receiving end of a good push.
I guess only Newman and Mears really know what happened. I was pretty bummed, cuz I dont want to see the 12 on that end of a crash, no matter what the circusmtances....but it happens. I watched the replay of the 48 crash and the 8 clearly was not all up in back bumper as claimed. If ya cause a crash atleast have the decency to own up to it.
Posted by: Rashaun | Oct 3, 2005 11:43:24 AM
Now that that crash stuff is all out of the way.......ROCK ON ALLTEL CREW!!
Great start and ya backed it up with a great finish. Glad to see Newman with a good run at a restrictor plate race.
According to the naysayer of this blog, his NON-DRIVIN, SOLELY POLE GETTIN, NEVER BACKIN IT UP ASS is off to a great start in the chase. Keep on doing what your doing, or not doing.
I hope he will continue to run good. He will have to step it up at a few of the tracks coming up, but I think he can do that. Great pit stops by the way
Posted by: Rashaun | Oct 3, 2005 11:58:36 AM
Cliff,
I'm absolutly with you, they aren't the only guys to do it but it seems to be a prerequisite for working at HMS to blame it on the other guy. Jimmie got out of the car and blamed the 8 for the whole thing, while Ryan got out and said he didn't mean to do that and he was sorry if it was his fault. Both drivers caused the accidents but the 12 manned up, thats why I'm and Alltel_fan and not a Lowes_fan. There are just too many cars running too fast, too close together to avoid a mistake. Mark Martin is right, NASCAR will continue to run this race in this fashion as long as the fans want it that way. Did anyone else notice all the empty seats in turn 4, I think it's probably pretty hard to get people to pay good money to spend the weekend in Alabama.
Keep it up Trent, 7 to go with only 4 points from Tony. Someone is livin' right.
Posted by: Alltel_fan | Oct 3, 2005 12:03:16 PM
Rashaun,
Would you rather the 12 be on the recieveing end of a wreck?
Posted by: Alltel_fan | Oct 3, 2005 12:06:56 PM
Heck no.....I would rather him be no where near the wreck. Obviously I dont want him on the receiving end although he has had his fair share, especially at RP tracks. However, I certainly dont like him on the giving end, moreso because I know he is NOT a dirty driver, but people always jump on the wagon to make him out to be a bad guy or dirty driver whenever he is involved.
NOw he had a great run, but it will be overshadowed by the fans and the media because he tagged the 41. That's alright tho, with my rose colored glasses I still see a halo over Newman's head..lol
Posted by: Rashaun | Oct 3, 2005 12:40:22 PM
Yes, everyone bumpdrafts, it's the only way to get around that place now with the rules being what they are. The thing is if you have your head implanted in your ass and don't realize that you don't do that stuff throught the tri-oval and in the turns you don't get crashes like that. If you watch the in-car cameras and see the bumpdrafts down the short-chutes and the back stretch you will see that the people who draft effectively will ride you to the corner and then drag the brake and back off. Sadler was right, use the fricking brake. All you have to do is drag the brake, very simple. I really don't know why a lot of people don't like Johnson, what, fans don't like people who don't take blame for something that is clearly their fault and blame everyone else. Look, Jimmy, stop crying like the 2nd grade girl you are and stop laying the blame on the best plate-racer there is. I hope everyone realizes why the HMS drivers are the way they are: look at the owner. He's a felon and he tried to stiff the people who make his company what it is out of 350 grand. That's a great example for his drivers to follow.
Posted by: Mike | Oct 3, 2005 1:27:15 PM
YO YO YO YO..back off of Jimmie! He did say something along the lines of what Newman said and said "If I did cause that then I'm sorry". This is the only time I can say that Jimmie was in the wrong...as for last dega..JR DID THAT ONE! ANd Cliff I do recall vickers taking blame for something he did....
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 2:05:25 PM
Look what the headline reads, TRENT...."Ryan Newman, 12 team also appear
to have found the Chase formula"! Way to go boys!
Posted by: Jen | Oct 3, 2005 2:21:44 PM
No, I don't recall Jimmie saying anything to the effect that he took blame for that crash. The way he got so defensive when he was asked about the wreck after he got out of his cars was kind of like when you catch a kid in a lie and he/she says 'I wasn't the only one doing it'. Completely trying to avoid the subject. Oh, and both the spring crashes were directly caused by JJ. Yes Jr. got into the back of Mike Wallace but that was after Johnson basically ran up into him where Wallace had to crack the throttle a bit. The second on was where he was running up at the top, couldn't control his car, wrecked 5 more good cars, and blamed it on the air being taken off of his car by a car 2 cars away from him. Three wins for him this year. Two where he failed inspection following the race and one that Nascar had no business red flaging with under 10 to go. That's why they introduced the green-white-checkered. That was lame and Bobby Labonte should have won that race. Everyone who is not under the HMS spell knows that NASCAR lets the golden boys off with a liitle more leeway than anyone else. Why do you think Todd Berrier was kicked out of Talladega this weekend? What he did, under the letter of NASCAR law, was not 'illegal', but he got the boot and he'll probably be done for the rest of the year. The Hendrick boys do it and nothing happens. Why do you think Richard Childress was so pissed?
Posted by: Mike | Oct 3, 2005 4:01:34 PM
The comments to this entry are closed.
Advertisements
