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November 06, 2005
South has no monopoly on stock car racing
By DAVID GREEN
Fellow blogger Krista Voda's recent post and the discussion it triggered got me to thinking (something I don't often do, as it makes my head hurt and usually gets me into some kind of trouble). Is it really fair to suggest, based on random anecdotal evidence, something as sweeping as "New Yorkers don't get NASCAR"?
Well, in the South, you're not going to get much hate mail for suggesting such a thing. Fans from other parts of the country may not protest as long as it's New York that's being bashed. But substitute "yankees" (the generic version of the word, with lower-case "y"), and you just might get some negative reaction.
Fellow Southerners, you may not want to read this, but it's true: We don't have a monopoly on any form of auto racing, not even stock cars.
I know we like to think of it as "our" sport, and it is "our"sport in that so many of us embrace it so passionately. But it's not exclusively "ours." And we should know this by now.
Going back to Year One (1949) and every year since the inception of the Nextel Cup Series, drivers from all across the country have been prominent participants -- not merely token representatives, but race and championship winners.
Down at grassroots levels, the same thing is true -- obviously. Where do you suppose those Cup standouts cut their racing teeth?
Wisconsin race fans will be quick to claim their state has more oval tracks per capita than any other state in the Union. (I haven't done all the math, but I do know there are 43 such facilities in the Badger State, according to National Speedway Directory. North Carolina has 36, if you count Lowe's Motor Speedway, its dirt track and its Legends track as three separate items.) The sales manager at any NASCAR speedway would be horrified to learn that he or she could no longer accept ticket orders from fans in Pennsylvania. The mountains of Vermont and New Hampshire echo with V8 thunder, just like in North Carolina and Virginia.
And, since we started this item by questioning the veracity of a derogatory reference to New York, let's focus on the Empire State for a moment.
Hold onto your Moon Pies, boys, because Noo Yawk State is a veritable hotbed of racing, from big-block dirt modifieds to gleaming asphalt late models to well-seasoned street stocks. Some 47 oval tracks are listed. They may not eat grits, but they show plenty of grit in the way they race.
Several fans wrote to defend the honor of Long Island, home to Riverhead Raceway and Steve Park. Nobody has mentioned that six times between 1964 and 1971, a little one-fifth-mile paved oval named Islip Speedway was on the schedule of what is now the Nextel Cup Series tour. Winners of races there included Bobby Allison and Richard Petty.
Islip is in south central Long Island -- my guess, about 30 miles due east of Lower Manhattan.
Do New Yorkers "get" NASCAR? Sure, they do -- those who want to. Same as anywhere else.
NASCAR's expansion efforts are not so much causing (or attempting to cause) something to happen as they are a savvy acknowledgement of something that happened a long time ago.
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Sorry to disagree but being from NY State outside of NYC...They really have no clue. They only realize there's a NASCAR when the banquet is held there. They have no idea there already is excellent racing in the state. NYC wants the glamour and glitter as long as the rest of the state funds the Stadiums and Tracks for them.
Posted by: Keith | Nov 6, 2005 2:18:27 PM
I run an online fantasy racing league here in South Carolina and we have two players from Yonkers, NY. They are as big of fans of NASCAR as anyone I have ever met here in the South. And next year there are more people from "Noo Yawk" that want to play as well as some from PA. Yes, NASCAR has certainly caught the attention from people all over and I only see it growing.
Posted by: Steve | Nov 7, 2005 10:07:52 AM
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. I was 6 years old when I distinctly remember -- in the same way some people remember the day Kennedy was shot or the Challenger blew up -- watching my first NASCAR race on ABC's Wide World of Sports. Donnie Allison won the Firecracker 400, and the year was 1969. Richard Petty became my favorite driver. I subscribed to Auto Racing Digest when I was 12, and found Stock Car Racing magazine in the magazine rack of my neighborhood candy store in 1978, and have subscribed ever since. Sure it was a lonely existence to seem like you're the only one following NASCAR in a city of 8 million people. But I now live in Nashville, Tennessee, and know plenty of people who could give a rip about NASCAR. If you like it you'll find it, and if you don't, you'll ignore it, simple as that.
Posted by: Rick | Nov 7, 2005 12:41:40 PM
I grew up in the northeast (CT and PA) and have been a NASCAR fan for years. But I have relatives on Long Island and in Connecticut that just don't get it. I don't think it has much to do with where you're from as it does with where your interests are. Now I live in Indy about 5 miles or so from IMS and 2 miles from IRP (which is absolute heaven for a race fan). Even living here, I find a lot of people who just don't care about racing.
Posted by: rustyfan | Nov 7, 2005 12:57:27 PM
Hey David,
Competition for the sports do$$ar. Could it be that the concentration of team sports in the northeast, leaves little room for anything new? You mentioned the dreaded "Y" word, but they are a great example. Many of these teams have born and raised lifetime fans. It is not to say that there are not race fans. But, if ya take all the sports fans and give them a choice of which event to attend, they may prefer "right field" as opposed to "infield". Speaking here of a "regular guy or gal" who could not afford to attend both.
And no, racing does not "belong" to the south. Have you ever seen, Roots ??
Posted by: Larry | Nov 9, 2005 6:39:28 PM
David,
you said : "Going back to Year One (1949) and every year since the inception of the Nextel Cup Series..."
PLEASE do not refer to any time before 2004 as NEXTEL Cup. Refer to it as "Cup" if you will, or "NASCAR's elite series", or even the actual proper names of the series during various era's. But, no NNC.
I fail to see why sports writers, TV announcers, and - yes- bloggers refuse to show the proper respect for this part of the NASCAR heritage. There have been several title sponsors since 1949 - and to generically refer to this particular series as NEXTEL Cup prior to '04 is a down right sacrilage. **Especially you graphic designers at FOX and NBC**
EX: Benny Parsons was NOT a Nextel Cup Champion - He was a Winston Cup Champion. The trophy, the sponsor, even points systems - all different. Learn this.
Now - I'll go have my coffee!
Posted by: the6and9 | Nov 10, 2005 11:51:24 AM
the6.... RIGHT ON! Nothing makes my skin crawl like hearing Rusty reffered to as a past nextel cup champion, or a question like "what driver has won 7 nextel cup races at bristol" HELLOOOOOOO nextel hasn't even RUN 7 races at bristol!! I rage at the tv and then when they try to shove the answer down our throat I go on another rampage.
Posted by: doc ink | Nov 11, 2005 3:56:43 PM
Don't forget how Nascar got started. it goes back to bootlegging, and that is something the south is known for. Yes, the sport has gained popularity all over the country, very quickly in the past several years, but it all started here. Northerners, I was one myself, still don't have a grip on Nascar like the south and midwest. There might be tracks all over the country and more in other states, than NC, but its here where it all got started. The Nacar Hall of Fame should be here, not NY. Let the south have something for a change. The majority of the teams shops are here, most of the drivers live here, keep Nascar here. The Awards banquet should be here!, not NY!
Posted by: Donna | Nov 12, 2005 12:26:04 PM
Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou!!!
Stock Car Racing is alive and well in the North. Enough stereotypes! Give it a break and realize that there are fans of good racing everywhere.
I really don't give a darn where the banquet is. Maybe it should change venues each year, but no region has the right to it.
Build a track in NY and it will be sold out for every event.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 2, 2005 3:16:10 PM
I was born in Islip 1959. My father raced at Islip in the 50's and early 60's. I was at one of the early Grand National races when I was 6. Yeah the Yankees get it. Racing gave me some of my greatest memories as a young boy and everywhere I went while in the Air Force from 77 - 97. Like your story and keep up the good work.
Posted by: Mike Densing | Jan 30, 2007 3:58:23 PM
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