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September 06, 2006
The Man That Can't Say No.
By Mark Young
As we near the end of NASCAR's "regular season" there are still many open seats for next year and there seems to be speculation and rumors flying around like crazy. There are still some pretty coveted seats available and the short list of drivers to fill them is getting pretty thin on the talent meter. The manufacturers are jockeying for position to get the next hot shoe in one of their cars and of late it appears that Ford is on the outside looking in. But one venerable Ford driver appears to be post-poning his retirement plans AGAIN to bail out a life-long manufacturer and sponsor, the guy just can't say no.
In case you haven't figured it out yet I am talking about Mark Martin. We all heard the story about how he was ready to retire and have "fun" again racing in the truck series. Then we saw Kurt Busch announce that he was leaving the Roush stables for greener pastures. This left Jack with five cars and only four drivers worth their salt to drive them. His futile and somewhat humorous attempt at reality racing, called the gong show, has found young faces that eventually might make it on the scene but as of now are a long way from ready. So Jack convinced Mark to stay another year while he groomed one of the gong show winners to jump in the six car and humbly Mark has made the best of the situation though you can tell his heart isn't in it.
Last week Mark was quoted as saying that there is no way he will drive the 6 car in 2007, he was ready to step away and start another chapter in his life. What none of us figured out is that chapter could very well be behind the wheel of another NEXTEL Cup ride, the venerable 88 from Robert Yates. When I first read the story I figured it to be a rumor but did some snooping around and can see that there might be some truth to it. Consider these thoughts that have been rattling around in my head and tell me what you think.
Ford has lost three marque drivers in the last 16 months to competing manufacturers, two of them past Series Champions in Busch and Jarrett. With the exception of the Roush Gong Show they do not have a very strong driver development plan, take a look in the Busch series and tell me one young gun that drives a Ford that is ready or been given enough exposure to come to Cup. Not only is Ford hurting for depth on the bench for drivers Robert Yates Racing is in a shambles having lost both of his drivers within months of one another. Granted Yates has signed hot shoe David Gilliland, who I think will do fine with a little track time, but there is nobody else out there. In steps Mark Martin to the picture. Sure he says he is ready to step down but I think there is more to it than simply driving a car or chasing that elusive championship, I think that the allure of team ownership is what has Mark contemplating another season in NASCAR's highest level. Mark has a young son who is quite a wheel man in his own right and owning a team (ala Dale Earnhardt) would be the perfect stepping stone for his son right? Mark could step in, help Yates out financially and eventually buy him out when the time is right.
Well I don't care if another year in Cup will reap rewards for the long-term future or not, if Mark Martin agrees to come back "one more time" whether for Jack Roush or for Ford he is making a mistake. He should be true to himself and do what HE wants. You see the look on his face each week, tired, haggard, sad, as if he doesn't want to be there. A far different look than when he climbs out his Craftsman Truck, where he is having fun.
There better be a huge pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for Mark if he stays, I hope there is and I look silly because this just doesn't seem like a very smart move.
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For no rational reason I can think of, I had sort of hoped that Ward Burton might be in the 88 next year. It would give Leicht another year to grow into NASCAR and would also give Ward the chance to throw his name back into the mix for other rides. Martin IS a bigger name, though, and I won't argue with Robert Yates if he signs him.
Posted by: Doug | Sep 6, 2006 4:57:51 PM
If he does decide to drive for RYR you know there is some other motive. Taking an ownership in the team and then bringing Matt to his team would make sense. I guess then he could bring Kennseth over to his team to keep Rousch under the limit. I agree though that he looks like he is having more fun driving the trucks!
Posted by: Michelle | Sep 6, 2006 5:02:15 PM
Mark,
If Yates wants to posteriorly produce black kettles full of item #79 on your periodic table of the elements, so be it. At least we'd know Mark was wanted for his talents and not selling a Championship provisional.
Posted by: Keith | Sep 6, 2006 5:05:56 PM
I'm torn, Yes Mark deserves to "retire" and enjoy Racin the Trucks and Helping his son with his racing career. I think it selfish of Jack Roush to prolong his retirement, As far as "rumors" of Mark piloting the 88 car, there was rumor 2 years ago of Mark Martin and Rusty Wallace buy the floundering American Speed Association series...it was JUST that RUMOR! I don't feel that Ward Burton would be a viable option...now before all you Ward Burton fans break out an efigee of #5 here me out, Ward has not run competitvly in ANY series for 2 years, the hopes of him jumping into a Yates car as their messiah is ludicrist! He should have opted to get Busch or Truck ride until something came up. There are plenty of capable drivers that could get it done, Ricky Craven come to mind, as does Steve Park, The Wallace Brothers, John Andretti and Ken Shrader...the list is long. If Nascar want the owners to pare there operations down to 4 cars (2 too many IMO) this would be the perfect opportunity for Jack to do so and let Mark ride off into the sunset. I would like to see THAT scenario...for the simple fact that IF Mark gets seriously injured to where he cannot enjoy a "normal" retirement like Rusty...I will hold Jack Roush soley responsible!
Posted by: Tbfka#5 | Sep 6, 2006 7:05:24 PM
Mark great post
What exactly does RYR have on sale,1 future star driver,a couple of non proven crew chiefs,motor technology that is shared with Rousch.Some also ran chasis,
some transporters,buildings,and not so great car setup ???
Looking back they realised that selling 50
percent to RG was not going to help them and after taking inventory,they realized
they had nothing,but a non proven driver and a sponsor.
Now add MM as a p/t or f/t driver and land a sponsor and soon you have a marketable comodity.One that could be sold,and how about a buyer, maybe RYR would become MYR
Sorry to have taken your thoughts farther but I think someone has thought out what is best for all parties involved.
#5 pass me an ice cold diet soda,one of them special ones.
Posted by: trucker | Sep 6, 2006 7:45:16 PM
What the heck was that about tables and elements?
Next thing you know, Keith is gonna want us to do math here! ;-)
Posted by: Bob Henry | Sep 6, 2006 7:58:08 PM
#5, you're dead on. I SAID I had no rational reason for thinking about Ward in there, but I'm a fan and would like to see him get a decent ride somewhere. Also, he's one of the names tossed around on Jayski's terrific "2007 teams" page as being a candidate for the 88.
Posted by: Doug | Sep 6, 2006 8:42:37 PM
LOL that would mean...hmmmm, shite out pots of gold to yee Leprechaun lovin' folk. LOL, but, I'm not sure if you get a rainbow when it's produced that way.
Posted by: Keith | Sep 6, 2006 8:47:56 PM
Their always after me lucky charms
Posted by: Tbfka#5 | Sep 6, 2006 9:31:22 PM
I just wonder what about Mark's credibility here. You can see that he is not having fun this year in that Cup car for Roush and we have NEVER heard Jack say once how grateful he is for Mark staying. Of course that doesn't surprise me one bit if you look at how Jack has ruined so many drivers' careers and sponsors.
Posted by: Mark | Sep 6, 2006 9:38:29 PM
HEY!!!! We got a comment from the boss man!! Thanks Bob.
Posted by: Mark | Sep 6, 2006 10:32:49 PM
BOO HOO to Ford for not having any up and coming drivers. Jack Roush has six cars entered in a Busch Race and 4 of them are his cup drivers. You know these guys can drive, quit worrying about winning all the races and get some young guns in those seats. Ford needs more teams. Yates isn't a elite team anymore and the Wood Brothers haven't been for a long time. There are strength in numbers. Besides that, when they do have someone in the wings, they let them get away then they sit around and cry because they are gone. If you want new guys to stay, they have to have more options.
Posted by: jeff | Sep 6, 2006 10:52:51 PM
Jeff you make a great point. Jack Roush's greed is going to get the best of him and Ford is too blind to see it.
Posted by: Mark | Sep 6, 2006 11:31:51 PM
The rebuilding of the 88 team will drive Mark Martin crazy,he will not be a top 10 car and will finish his career,a mid-pack driver,at best, instead of at the top where he has earned his place,unless Jack Roush slips him cars in the middle of the night like he does Boris Said,..
Posted by: charles | Sep 7, 2006 8:24:32 AM
Mark, I'm just replying to you, cuz I haven't read everything else yet.
Why in the world is Mark even considering a move to the 88? The person that always says how terrible his car is, that he doesn't think he'll make the race (j/k), etc. is going to take more abuse with another team?
I keep hearing that MWR is where the cash came from for DJ, but in reality I'm sure Toyota provided a large portion of his millions.
Can Ford even come close to doing such for Mark? I don't think so.
And what about Robby Gordon buying RYR? I thought that was a possiblilty.
But no matter. I hope two things happen, make that three.
I hope Robert Yates Racing (or Doug Yates Racing) survives on their own.
I hope Mark Martin retires from Cup after 2006.
And I hope Mark Martin wins the Bill France Sr. Cup. (I can only dream on both!)
Posted by: Shirley | Sep 7, 2006 9:17:15 AM
Shirley the Robby Gordon deal was pulled at the 23rd hour. This story has been posted in several credible websites and news papers but not yet formally announced but everything is pointing to be true.
I too hope he retires after this season.
Posted by: Mark | Sep 7, 2006 9:42:19 AM
Ford has not only lost 2 Champions in the past two years but they've also lost a lot of development drivers -- Kyle Busch, the original intended replacement for the 6 car, and Kasey Kahne, the driver RYR told that he wasn't ready for Cup, among them.
IMO, Ford and the Ford teams might want to look at their development contracts and their relationships with their drivers. Losing one or two drivers happens. Losing enough drivers to fill seats for an entire megateam probably indicates that something is fundamentally wrong with the way Ford and the Ford teams treat their drivers.
Posted by: M. B. Voelker | Sep 7, 2006 9:51:20 AM
I think that after an idle 2 years that Ward Burton has become a non-factor.
It is apparent from his look and commentary that Mark Martin wants this to be his last round-up.
We need to face it, that Mark Martin and Dale Jarrett's generation of racers have about been used up as competitive racers. If they want to continue, fine, but we can be fairly certain that they are not going to be competitive week in and week out. There are at least 3 more drivers who fit this description.
NASCAR should require a series committment from each driver before the season and allow each to only compete in 3(or 5 or whatever, but less than 9) races in another series each season. The committment could only be broken by a permanent move to another series.
I see this as letting them (cup drivers) "Help" NASCAR fill seats at Busch and Craftsman venues but not dominate that series so the "up and comers" can't get some seat time.
Posted by: Barely | Sep 7, 2006 9:53:49 AM
Bud, you listed two of my favorites as possible replacements for the 88: Park and Schrader.
Unfortunately, they have not been doing well the past few years, and I don't believe it is from lack talent. I think it’s been from the lack of an opportunity in a quality ride.
I don’t think RYR is the place for a “struggling” veteran to go and renew their career right now.
If they think Mark Martin is their “messiah” – and I hate using the end of Darrell Waltrip’s career as an example – but if Mark joins RYR to drive the 88, I have a feeling his career might end up the same way as DW’s. That was really really hard for me to watch, because I have been a fan of Jaws from day one. I don’t want to see that happen to Mark Martin.
And for that matter, I can’t think of a “messiah” out there at this time that could fill that 88 seat. RYR needs to face reality; suck it up and put in a rookie; realign the organization and look toward the future.
Mark, that’s the second time I’ve heard Robby’s deal fell through. Which makes me think something is seriously wrong somewhere. I just hope RYR figures it all out.
Posted by: Shirley | Sep 7, 2006 10:22:10 AM
Robby's deal fell through because I believe Jack Rousch stepped in and threw his money and his weight around.
Posted by: Mark | Sep 7, 2006 11:02:12 AM
Just read in two different places that now Mark Martin's manager is denying that anything exists with Mark going to RYR. Hard to say what is going on but man I love chewing on rumors!!!
Posted by: Mark | Sep 7, 2006 11:06:23 AM
Okay, Jack Roush as WAY TOO MUCH CONTROL.
But it would be nice to have that much ash to throw around.
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Seems the folks at Roush Racing need to start communicating a little better.
First you have team Pres, Geoff Smith tell Marty Smith at Brisol that "you won't see Mark is a Roush Cup program" in '07.
And now they are denying anything exists btwn Mark & RYR.
I thought Robert Yates Racing had some problems.
Posted by: Shirley | Sep 7, 2006 12:09:41 PM
Martin's rumored move to the 88, DJ's to MWR, and the creation of MWR itself rekindle in me several questions I'd love answers for. First, exactly what is it that a team looks for in a driver? Dale Jr. fired his Busch driver and said that it was more attitude and personality than driving talent. Second, do driver's contracts cover stuff like personal appearances? Is this why people put so much faith in Michael Waltrip, because he'll go anywhere at any time to schmooze sponsors? I mean, I find his public persona to be engaging, but why is HE the guy Toyota went to? Or did he pay Toyota? I have no clue. Is DJ driving for Toyota because of his talent? His name recognition? The money? Would Martin take the #88 for the money alone?
We all like to think that our favorite could be champ if he had that top of the line ride, but as long as each driver has one car, we'll never know. IROC may try, but you'll never have "exactly evenly prepared cars."
Posted by: Doug | Sep 7, 2006 1:14:08 PM
I think Mark Martin will drive in cup in '07 in the 6 car.I watched the awards show at Talladega and Jack asked Mark about '07 and he just smiled.There seems to be a lot of protesting going around lately.I would love to see Mark full time in one of those beautiful,boxy trucks.
Posted by: SHORT LADY | Sep 7, 2006 1:51:06 PM
Doug,
Your question has got me thinking about NAPA. They were with Dale when he started the truck series with Ron Hornaday and stayed with DEI until this year. So why did NAPA leave DEI and go with Michael? I like Michael and it is nothing against him but he has not set the world on fire lately if you know what I mean. Did DEI want NAPA to keep the same sponsorship amount where maybe Michael agreed to less? Or did NAPA know about the move to Toyota and thought they would fit better with Toyota? I can't figure that one out.
Posted by: Michelle | Sep 7, 2006 2:44:20 PM
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