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June 29, 2007
A Buffet of NASCAR Thoughts
By Mike Harper
No, I’m not going to bring up the IRL. I really don’t plan to touch on the absolutely wonderful coverage we saw from our good friends at TNT from Infineon either. Yep, I tend to ruffle feathers with some of my friends when I do that.
I could slip in a few good words about ARCA since they’ve been the most competitive racing this season. But - I won’t. Why you ask? Good question thanks for asking.
Well, because lately I’ve been living and breathing ARCA and so I figured uncapping these NASCAR emotions that’s been building up inside my head would make me feel better. Maybe in my next posting, I can share with you how life is going in ARCAville U.S.A.
But today it’s all NASCAR and as we head into New Hampshire, my agenda includes penalties, Kyle Petty and the other Kyle, that would be Kyle Thomas Busch.
My good friend Mark Young touched on this topic here in Turn 3 and while I like all of the comments, I have a different take on how these penalty situations should be handled moving forward.
I’ve always – yes, always have taken the position that if you break the rules in NASCAR, to the extent where suspension comes into play, then the team should be parked. To be blunt, if life is good enough to win as a team, then life should be miserable enough to be parked as a team.
But as we move forward into this mega-money industry where race fans and sponsors pay lots and lots of cash to support their drivers and teams, I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t park teams. If you do, fans and sponsors suffer. And, when fans and sponsors suffer, they’ll go elsewhere for their racing entertainment.
Obviously suspending crew chiefs isn’t the answer. You know as well as I do, with today’s technology Chad Knaus doesn’t need to be on the pit box to get his job done.
I think when NASCAR suspends a crew chief or driver for a rule violation as we’ve seen happen this week - the team must race, period. The team must qualify too. The sponsors and fans deserve to see the car on the track.
But – yes there's a but. The driver and owner shouldn’t receive any points for the same amount of races their guy is suspended. That means Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon should race for their fans and sponsors, but receive no points for six events.
That my friends would stop the cheating!
Next topic please….
I’m not going to say anything about TNT and their lovely coverage last weekend. Not gonna do it. But I will ask a simple question – how does a person get away with dropping an expletive on national TV without receiving any kind of penalty?
Maybe I’m jumping the gun, but Kyle has admitted to it. He said, "I'm sorry it got as far as everyone's living room. But when an incident happens that early in the race and it's unexpected, what I said pretty much described it."
Dale Earnhardt Jr., says a dirty little word in victory lane a few years ago and NASCAR pounds him, but now we hear nothing from the network or NASCAR. What gives?
I like Kyle. Kyle is a cool cat. But come on, where is the consistency on this policy?
Next topic again please…
Our good little buddy Kyle Busch! Here’s the deal folks – you may not like him or he may be your favorite driver, either way the kid can drive a race car.
Bottom line without holding anything back, Kyle got fired. When have we ever heard of a driver winning races, running in the top 12 and getting fired? Doesn’t happen.
As much as people want to point at Kyle and blame his attitude for getting the boot, it was 100% a choice. Hendrick picked Junior over Kyle.
At the end of the day it’s Rick Hendrick’s choice and by golly I respect his decision. But I am man enough to step up and admit that if Junior doesn’t beat Kyle to a Nextel Cup Series championship, I’ll be one of the first to wonder who got the better deal.
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Comments
Mike,
I'm going to work up a reply. But, actually, I have a quick answer for you on the expletive...The FCC was over-ruled by the courts on the use of language and how it applied to non-FCC controlled events. Networks no longer are required to delay audio during non-FCC controlled events...I.E. Cable no; Broadcast yes.
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 3:42:22 PM
This is a totally different subject/observation but it is Nascar related.
Has anyone noticed Denny Hamlin got his buck teeth fixed? He has had them fixed for quite a while now. Also, Boris Said had his teeth fixed.
Thanks.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 29, 2007 5:04:28 PM
Mary,
If you come up with more teeth/NASCAR issues I will devote a whole post to your foresight...But, right now it's kinda, wtf!
See, when you said, "totally different subject." Maybe, you should have respected the author and just said no!
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 5:20:44 PM
Mike,
"But as we move forward into this mega-money industry where race fans and sponsors pay lots and lots of cash to support their drivers and teams, I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t park teams. If you do, fans and sponsors suffer." - Mike
IMO- Wrong - Fans and racing are the ones that suffer if you let TV and sponsors run the sport. I give zero credence to this "NASCAR can't survive w/o the sponsor crap." They manipulate the sport for TV and we have a "Chase," farce. But, do you really think NASCAR wouldn't survive? Guys/Gals in fast cars are going to get an audience.
"I think when NASCAR suspends a crew chief or driver for a rule violation as we’ve seen happen this week - the team must race, period. The team must qualify too. The sponsors and fans deserve to see the car on the track." - Mike
BS...They're independent contractors. Unless, NASCAR wants to get involved with driver unions etc., My bet is they stay as far away from this as they can. Nobody races for free.
Pizza to make back in a bit
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 5:58:32 PM
Mike, I understand your feelings about Kyle's speech impediment, but consider this - no one on TV heard the f-word "live". It was only heard on TNT's REPLAY. If anyone should be fined, it should be TNT for their mistake in not editing that tape. Am sure that people who tune in to the driver/crew chief exchanges on their radios hear that word used often, as well as many others. If Jr hadn't said his infamous word on "live TV", there would have been no penalty for him either.
Keith, you have once again sent me into hysterics - love your sense of humor!
Posted by: SrRaceFan | Jun 29, 2007 6:00:53 PM
What's wrong with Boris and Denny
getting their teeth fixed? If you can
improve your looks, GO FOR IT. As for
HMS letting Kyle Busch go, I just hope
Hendrick didn't make a BIG MISTAKE.
Kyle is a great driver and maybe, he
will go to DEI and drive the #8, Red
Budweiser car. He will win a championship.
Posted by: Ellen | Jun 29, 2007 6:04:47 PM
Where are the plates? I am hungry!
Posted by: WBinCC | Jun 29, 2007 6:09:32 PM
Ellen,
If Tooth fixing made racing better don't you think there'd be a NASCAR penalty for unauthorized or unapproved fillings?...LOL
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 6:13:52 PM
Ok Harp, I'm just gonna copy and past my diatribe from Shirley B and Short Lady's post in the infield section...
First of ALL HOW 'BOUT THEM TOYOTA'S...WooHoo! O.k down to brass tacks, Being a former Driver and a "Over the Wall" tire carrier(obiviously NOT at the same time)...IMO BOTH Kurt and Mr Stewart got off with a slap on the wrist, Tony should KNOW not drive thru someone that early in a race it usually doesn't end up well...and THEN make it sound as if it is the OTHER guys fault, I would have sat them BOTH outa race...sound harsh? oh hell I ain't done yet, I ain't afraid to call a spade, a spade! Dale Jr parked one race Tony Eury Jr suspended for 6 races! Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson parked for 1 race, Steve Letarte suspension for 6 week....Chad Knaus...Suspended till September 8th...Richmond 1st race in the chase, with orders to ALL SUSPENDED CREW CHIEFS...under no circumstances any communications with there teams at the track...It is a little known fact that the "Usual suspects" will be holed up in a local hotel, tuned into TNT and calling in the plays via lap top. Points do not hurt, Money does not hurt, obiviously suspensions do little. But Imagine having to ANSWER to Lowe's Home Improvement Center's CEO, Dupont's CEO, Home Depot's CEO, Miller Brewing Co CEO, or Budweiser's CEO if their Multi-BILLION dollar sponsorship isn't in the show, not only would it send a prudent message to the teams, the HURT form sitting out knowing that there are cars out there that you could whoop up on any given Sunday!...Now before you go Boo-Hooing, save your Kleenex for some else, Michael Waltrip doen't get off scott free in my books either...But NASCAR has spun him into car owner hell...aka "the Top 35" rule, This is Racing folks...the Fastest 43 make the field...once again missing a race makes you work harder...I know! Ted Musgrave, still a hard charger after all these years, can't really blame him, lap traffic should race a guy that hard, It gets frustrating. But I'm sure he'll learn to play well with others after sitting out tonight!
Posted by: Fan #5 | Jun 29, 2007 3:24:06 PM
Posted by: Fan #5 | Jun 29, 2007 6:28:39 PM
#5,
WTH was that? And, I was being nice with the "H." I'm pretty sure Mike wanted a discussion and got a diatribe. I didn't bother to read the whole rant. Sheesh, be nice to the posters topic. That was uncalled for. IMO
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 6:35:46 PM
Amen Keith! Amen Keith! Letting sponsorship and drivers popularity dictate they "must" be in the race is absurd!
But Mark does have a great point. Let them race and throughout any suspension of the crew chiefs the car, driver and owner gets no points! That one is brilliant! To bad it will never see the light of day with NASCAR.
And yeah, Fan#5 skipped his Prozac today!
Posted by: Steve C | Jun 29, 2007 8:16:49 PM
Steve C,
Nope, have to be real here....nobody is ever going to race for zero points. And, nor should they. And, maybe it's this new COT. But, until NASCAR can make rules not backed up by, "Detrimental to....," I support innovation.
LOL, #5 shares his prozac equally and his opinions are always well regarded
Posted by: Keith | Jun 29, 2007 8:36:39 PM
Funny? I don't remember saying let them race because thir popular I could give a rat ass who gets parked be it Dale Jr or Chad Chaffin...the gist WAS points and monies do NOT stop...taking indecnt liberties of the rules...as for cussin'...it's cable, Hell they show South Park in broadcast TV...moot point
Posted by: Fan #5 | Jun 29, 2007 8:38:59 PM
I still say it fit the friggin' template and should have been the normal "go fix it and come back through" deal, at worst!
If they're going be like NASA on this, then NASCAR should spend a buck or two on a laser rig, like they align my streetcar with, to check this stuff.
Sheesh! Join the late 20th century, at least, NASCAR, with your NASCAR-IROC car!
Posted by: JWSmoke | Jun 29, 2007 11:21:18 PM
I think there would be a riot if Kyle Busch hit the track in a red #8 Bud car. 'Certain' fans would crash onto the track and shred it with fingernails and pocketknives.
Posted by: JWSmoke | Jun 29, 2007 11:23:31 PM
Let 'em 'stretch' the rules. Gives us stuff to talk about. Keep NASCAR on their toes - and they need to keep a sense of humor about it.
Like 'doping' in the Olympics, NFL, MLB...let 'em do it. They use top-of-the-line technology to design workout plans, build shoes, engineer golf clubs, computer analyze every statistic, even pitch trajectories...use the medical tech.
Best in the world? You'll need top shelf hardware, software, and why not meds ;)
Buncha carburetor-powered neanderthals if you ask me...but you didn't! Just IMHO...
Posted by: JWSmoke | Jun 29, 2007 11:29:55 PM
Yeah I know Keith. Just someway, somehow, NASCAR needs to get things in order and find a better way to penalize teams.
As far as the Kyle thing, if I was just in a wreak unexpected, I'd cuss too. Wasn't Kyle's fault TNT thought no better of it than to just show the replay without listning first.
So your right on that argument Fan#5, moot point!
Posted by: Steve C | Jun 29, 2007 11:46:43 PM
Mike, looking forward to your post on ARCA. Great series, great racing. Best thing about it is we don't have all the crud going on that takes up so much of our NASCAR blog space.
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Ok. Why do we have sporks? Couldn't we get forks, spoon, and knives plasice ware??????
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Help the homeless down the street and persuade them to look for work
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Hallo! Es hat sich doch gezeigt, dass die 301 Umleitung einer minus-31 Domain nichts bringt weil die Seite auf die umgeleitet wird auch auf Platz 31 landet. Wenn nun jemand seine -31 Domain auf meine Domain umleiten wurde um mich als Konkurrenten zu argern, gabe es fur mich keine Moglichkeit diese Manipulation herauszufinden. Ich wurde ratseln was ich falsch gemacht hatte und dabei ist es nur ein Trick der Konkurrenz. Edit: Ich habe die Frage vergessen! Gibt es doch eine Moglichkeit herauszufinden ob jemand seine Domain auf meine umgeleitet hat?
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